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Michael Cooper, The New York Times, October 25, 2007
DAVENPORT, Iowa - At a town hall meeting here last night, Rudolph W. Giuliani expanded upon his views of torture. Here is a transcript of the exchange.
Linda Gustitus, who is the president of a group called the National Religious Campaign Against Torture, began her question by saying that President Bush’s nominee for attorney general, Michael B. Mukasey (who happens to be an old friend of Mr. Giuliani’s) had “fudged” on the question of whether waterboarding is toture.
“I wanted to ask you two questions,’’ she said. “One, do you think waterboarding is torture? And two, do you think the president can order something like waterboarding even though it’s against U.S. and international law?’’
Mr. Giuliani responded: “Okay. First of all, I don’t believe the attorney general designate in any way was unclear on torture. I think Democrats said that; I don’t think he was.’’
Ms. Gustitus said: “He said he didn’t know if waterboarding is torture.”
Mr. Giuliani said: “Well, I’m not sure it is either. I’m not sure it is either. It depends on how it’s done. It depends on the circumstances. It depends on who does it. I think the way it’s been defined in the media, it shouldn’t be done. The way in which they have described it, particularly in the liberal media. So I would say, if that’s the description of it, then I can agree, that it shouldn’t be done. But I have to see what the real description of it is. Because I’ve learned something being in public life as long as I have. And I hate to shock anybody with this, but the newspapers don’t always describe it accurately.”
(Applause)
Read More Here MOUNT PLEASANT, Mich. - A politically conservative student armed with a video camera and a Web site is trying to force a Democratic congressional candidate out of his teaching job at Central Michigan University. Dennis Lennox, a 23-year-old junior, has posted videos on YouTube of himself questioning assistant professor Gary Peters about campaigning for office while holding a prestigious position at the university. Some say Lennox is persistent. Others accuse him of pandering for attention. "What I'm doing isn't about getting media attention," said Lennox, a political science major. "I'm speaking for the hundreds of students, alumni, taxpayers and even legislators who have complained because Gary Peters won't pick between Congress and campus." In one video Lennox posted online, Peters is seen walking to his car while Lennox asks him several questions, including whether he is angry about his campaign not getting "positive press." Peters doesn't respond. Peters said in an interview this week with The Associated Press that his university position is part-time and privately funded. "The bottom line is that people who run for public office still need to pay the bills and still need to work," he said. He drives 130 miles from a Detroit suburb to Mount Pleasant to teach class once a week. Peters, 48, is seeking the Democratic nomination to face Republican U.S. Rep. Joe Knollenberg in Oakland County, one of the top congressional targets for Democrats nationally in 2008. "If I was running for Congress in a seat where I had no chance of winning, I probably wouldn't have any attention put on me at all," said Peters, a former state senator who lost a close race for Michigan attorney general in 2002. He acknowledges it would be difficult to keep his $65,000-a-year job at the university if he gets elected to Congress, but says he will worry about that if he wins. Peters holds the Griffin Endowed Chair in American Government — named for a former Republican U.S. senator and Michigan Supreme Court justice. Lennox helped start the group Students Against Gary Peters and created a Web site for what he calls "Petersgate." He insists that he isn't targeting Peters because he's a Democrat. [snip]Go read the whole thing. There's a followup to the original report, which doesn't really say a lot about the he said/she said going on between this student and the dean of the university in question - he wants to troll through Peters' emails looking for impropriety, and is video taping Peters everywhere he goes (which is against school policy) - and she took a swipe at the camera when he shoved it in her face in her office while asking about his FOIA request for the emails, according to what I can make out in the articles I can get to (note to Freep/DetNews: don't try and make me pay for online archives of articles you published last week). Now, I'm not sure how I feel about this situation. If there is some validity to the accusations of this student, then some investigation should be done by journalists (preferrably professionals) - and the student is within the bounds of reasonable discourse in asking the questions he is asking. On the other hand, if this is a Stalkin' Malkin acolyte looking for smear and deflect material to put a stop to an opponent who might be able to beat the incumbent Republican't candidate (and/or become the next Scaife bonus baby), all of the sludge he spews should be dropped back in the sewers that are current Republican't political strategery machinations. It certainly does smell somewhat like gotcha journalism, what with the ambushing of the target on a constant basis (bordering on stalking/harrassment), the apparent disdain for even asking the target for permission to engage in this behavior, and the refusal to abide by university policy while on campus. Anyone who can shed more light on this story would be welcome to give me the low down in the comments. For now, the jury's still out on this one...
"Half of those tested failed to notice that, as the door passed by, the stranger had been substituted with a man who was of different height, of different build and who sounded different. He was also wearing different clothes. "Despite the fact that the subjects had talked to the stranger for 10-15 seconds before the swap, half of them did not detect that, after the passing of the door, they had ended up speaking to a different person. This phenomenon, called change blindness, highlights how we see much less than we think we do."In another classic experiment the piece covered, Christopher Chabris at Harvard University and Dr. Simons showed a videotape of two teams playing basketball to a random group of subjects. The subjects were asked to count the number of passes made by one of the teams. As the article adds:
"Around half failed to spot a woman dressed in a gorilla suit who walked slowly across the scene for nine seconds, even though this hairy interloper had passed between the players and stopped to face the camera and thump her chest."They just didn't see the gorilla in the background as they focused on the players and the ball. Imagine this sort of 'change blindness' affecting the abstract thought processes needed to choose a candidate or political ideology in today's 'information overload' world. Further imagine that there are groups of well-paid people like Frank Luntz dedicated to telling you that no such gorilla exists, reinforcing their already inadequate perception of reality. Later, were the viewers who saw no gorilla to hear that the gorilla robbed, killed and ate the basketball players, and that they had witnessed the beginnings of a crime, this same well-paid Fox Newsy 'reinforcing group' would continue to reassure them that they saw nothing; the gorilla must be innocent, since there was no gorilla. (Of course, this reinforcing group is being paid by the gorilla.) Many Americans seem to spend less time deciding whom to vote for than they do shopping for cuts of meat at the supermarket. Only recently, because the presence of 'the gorilla' has affected meat prices, are a majority questioning the faulty perceptions easily sold to them in the past. Still, about 20 percent, the hardcore neocons, persist in believing there is no gorilla in the background that robbed and devoured the team, no doubt the same type who, at Duke, misidentified the white thief as being black. In short: Neocons can't deal with reality because they can't adequately perceive reality, and they can never change because they're afflicted with 'change blindness.' And that large pile of elephant excrement in the middle of the room? Why, that's our Beloved Leader.
