Comments on: The Double Standard: The Psychotic Right Gets a Free Pass

By: grimgold

grimgold — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:27:32 +0000

Joseph, sorry for misspellings – I have to ask Bart how to spell check. Grimmy

By: grimgold

grimgold — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:22:55 +0000

Hah! You even go over your stuff to make sure it’s well written before you send it to me! I am honored.
Concerning Colter, I’ve read some of her books and find her to be funny rather than overly caustic. The reason she appears on T.V. regularly (and you already know this) is because her nasty comments cause people to watch. Unlike you and me, the Main Scream Media is in it more for the money than getting out the truth. Coulter has most likely discovered this and purposely acts like a spitting cobra for that reason. Moreen Dowd is just as bad.
I miss Molly Ivans. I may not have agreed with her about a number of things, but her good heart came through quite clearly. I don’t think she had a mean bone in her body.
Hating Colter isn’t good for you personally. Done over a long period of time it will just make you a hateful person. I don’t want that. Please think about this.
Concerning destruction of America, the conservatives are now awake. It began when GW decided his unqualified little friend Harriet Meyers should be a Supreme Court Justice, and exploded onto the political scene when he was panting, pen poised, to sign amnesty legislation. Elected representatives say they haven’t heard such discontent since taking office (which is great!)
I’m horrified that GW and company is letting the dollar slide more than 25% in terms of the euro (for example). I’m very worried about the 9 trillion dollar debt (in this I disagree with His Greatness The Maha Rushi who’s not worried).
I’m disgusted that GW has signed every damn spending bill to come across his desk. I voted for him twice and regret having done so.
Take heart! Iran will not be attacked by us or Israel unless they attack Israel, or insist on developing nuclear weapons. This is unlikely. GW, for all his faults, knows how to apply pressure on Iran to cut it out. For example, he will appeal to China.
North Korea is apparently going to stop being stupid, as a result of GW’s insistence on getting neighbors involved, and the same strategy will likely work on Iran.
Attempting to impeach our very lame duck president is a waste of time, in my opinion. There are more important things to push for.
Please tell me you’ve read my posts concerning infaltion, and the FairTax. These two issues will go a long way toward making the country fiscally responsible.
Be of good cheer. More and more people are getting politically involved as a result of the net and talk radio.
Please use your great writing skills to push issues that you think will improve America.
Grimmy

By: Joseph52

Joseph52 — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:39:24 +0000

Correction: end of 4th to last line should be “for me” not “more me”.

By: Joseph52

Joseph52 — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:34:20 +0000

Grim, how can I NOT hate someone like Coulter? America means everything to me and when I’m attacked by this idiot as being “unAmerican”? how else can I feel? I hate her guts to the point I wouldn’t piss down her throat if her heart was on fire. And yet, there she is, regularly, on the mainstream media, throwing garbage in my face and in the face of all other Democrats. Why? Why does she get this exposure again and again and again?

American conservatives are either aiding and abetting the destruction of America or just letting it happen while occasionally letting out a little peep of discontent with the destruction of civil liberties. How badly do the Republicans have to handle things before the conservatives wake up? Yes, a lot of individual conservatives are decent people, but in their public life they too often tend to be appalling. When I hear them defending torture, defending rendition (which is morally just as bad), denigrating all minorities, and saying that non-Christians (like me) are suspect, how else can I react?

Grim, look around you. America is dying. Republican economic policies account for 70% of our monstrous national debt (Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II). It’s devastating our credit liquidity and pushing us toward disaster. Republican energy policies have made us slaves to the Saudis and Hugo Chavezes of the world. Republican environmental neglect will wreak havoc on the coasts, where 70% of our people live. Republican foreign policy is stretching our courageous military to the breaking point. How can I not hate them for that? Moreover, in the last 15 years, a demented right-wing noise machine has been driving our national discourse. In all honesty, how can you say that what was done to the Clintons in the 90s was just? Why are using lies and manipulated intelligence to start a war that has killed hundreds of thousands of people less reprehensible and worthy of impeachment than lying about oral sex? And yet, pressure from talk radio, the Wall Street Journal, Fox “News” and a hundred other right wing media outlets has tried to convice us that it is. The liberal media is myth; the Radical Right is in the driver’s seat, and they’re killing our country. (And when we attack Iran and a genuine war erupts between the West and Islam, what terrible consequences will stem from that?)

I apologize for calling you pinhead, but you were using silly straw man arguments and I guess that irritated me. But trust me on this: after years of being a Reagan supporting, National Review and Commentary reading right winger, it all just became too much more me.

Finally, I urge you to read (if you have not yet done so) Kevin Phillips’s American Theocracy. It is a deeply disturbing book that makes an important point: America is in decline becuase of the corruption and ideological fanaticism of the right. I urge you to give it a read.

Peace.

By: grimgold

grimgold — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:50:09 +0000

Joseph, thanks for your reply. You are one of the few people who writes his own stuff and must be given a nod for that.
Your foaming at the mouth is somewhat justified in that Washington D.C. is indeed highly polarized with people wingnutting to the right and left walls with very little sensibility to be found in between.
However, in the real world I think you’ll find all kinds of normality and sensibility. The American public isn’t stupid, simply uninformed. You have taken on the job of spreading information, which shows a caring that I appreciate. I would urge you, however, to use less smear and hatred in your flaming opinions and more suggestivity as to what to do about it (and putting all republicans in concentration camps doesn’t count).
In the long run the party with the best ideas wins. Part of my reason for wanting to rant on this web site is to move good ideas forward. I ask you to do the same when you aren’t beating the crap out of me and other people on the right.
By behaving as you do, you are in danger of bringing about the very world that you dislike so much. Extremes always constellate their opposite over time.
Name calling, such as pinhead, though perhaps very satisfying to you, isn’t helpful. I’m very good at name calling and could easily respond with all sorts of childishness, but don’t see how that promotes America as a better place to live, which as far as I’m concerned, is the reason why I’m spending my time here rather than fishing or some other valuable activity.
If you would care to be patient (which may be something new to you) and point out how conservatism is raging, screaming, intolerant, tribalistic, hate-filled, doministic, repulsive and dangerous, I’ll read your every word (I may regret saying that, but will stick to it until further notice).
In reading my responses, kindly don’t throw things at your computer – it is innocent.
If I don’t hear from you because you’ve given up on me in impatient disguist, have a good life.
Grimgold

By: Joseph52

Joseph52 — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:14:45 +0000

Grimgold, you are truly a semi-literate pinhead. The thesis of my post is clear: the Radical Right has made death threats, calls for the mass murder of Iranians, and smears against the patriotism of anyone who disagrees with them with impunity. There is a double standard in America because the corporate right now controls so much of the information. (And yes, the Dixie Chicks/Nugent thing is a perfect example.) You haven’t bothered to address a single actual contention I’ve made or try to refute any of the evidence I’ve presented. That’s because you can’t. The facts speak for themselves.

No, I do not intend to engage the Coulter/Limbaugh/Pat Robertson/Hannity right. I intend to help crush them, and I think a movement is arising in America to do just that.I don’t have to talk to or engage with ANYONE who calls me a traitor because I’m a Democrat. Anyone who thinks that can go to hell.

Finally, I think a lot of your Dominionist/Theocratic/Neo-Confederate/Creationist allies would be quite comfortable living in a right wing dictatorship. There is the strong stench of authoritarianism in the modern conservative movement. (Santorum used to publicly call for the regulation of the most intimate sexual acts; Dominionists like Robertson want all-non Christians purged from government.) I know more about all this than you might suspect, having spent many years as a conservative Republican myself. And then, like Kevin Phillips and John Dean, the scales fell from my eyes and I saw you people for what you are. I was ashamed to have been among you.

Conservativism is based on fear, hatred, and the most brutal racial and ethnic prejudice imaginable. It isn’t based on patriotism, but rather crude tribalism. There is a raging, screaming intolerance at the core of American conservatism that is totally repulsive to me. Wake up, Grim, and admit it–the right in America is as dangerous in their own way as the Islamic radicals. Both hate freedom. Both have to be defeated.

By: brew

brew — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:22:09 +0000

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By: grimgold

grimgold — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:15:28 +0000

Dear Joseph, I patiently read your whole piece. As a conservative, I must say you certainly have things right. The republican party is now in the process of buying huge numbers of brown shirts for us to wear as we break in doors at your houses at 3:00 A.M.
You are absolutely correct, we, the horrid right, cannot be engaged. You will be utterly and totally opposed, crushed, and defeated.
You vile scum liberals will be put in prison camps and cruel medical experiments will be preformed to discover why you would even think of opposing us, we the Master Party.
Prepare yourself for total political slaughter. We will defeat all, spare no one.
I feel warm inside and my eyes roll skyward as I remember the vile propoganda successfully impaling your kind. Ha, those are the days! I feast on these memories as manna.
In 2008 you will indeed be politically destroyed. I look forward to it as I give the battle cry and charge down the hill decimating those in my way. We are unstoppable, God is on our side. Hug your children and say goodbye to your political operatives, because you will be no more.
The Dixie Chicks will beg for mercy, Al Gore will admit to global cooling, Hillary will come out in favor of health care saving accounts, environmentalists will enthusiastically cry for oil drilliing on the west slope. John Kerry will learn how to drive a swift boat, and His Holyness, The Great and Wonderful Rush Limbaugh will become senator of New York.
You have no chance against the republican onslaught. Join us. Come to the dark side. Feel the power, Joseph! It could all be yours!
GraaaaHaaaaaHaaaaHaaaa…….