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	<title>Comments on: Dems Are Not Lost!   &#8211; Grim</title>
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		<title>By: grimgold</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear RS, thanks for the thoughtful response. However, I don&#039;t understand how &#039;my advice&#039; would prevent a Constitution.
I certainly agree that our healthcare is bad, but the federal govt has proved itself incompetant, uncaring, wasteful, dishonest, and all the other things HMO&#039;s are.
I say, first of all, to consider making hospitals not-for-profit. Here in the Holy State Of California, we have Kaiser which is  non-profit. I&#039;ve had excellent luck with them.
Secondly, I&#039;d like to see the health care issue cut into smaller pieces and then approached for ideas.
again, thanks for your excellent response.
Sincerely, Grimmy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear RS, thanks for the thoughtful response. However, I don&#8217;t understand how &#8216;my advice&#8217; would prevent a Constitution.<br />
I certainly agree that our healthcare is bad, but the federal govt has proved itself incompetant, uncaring, wasteful, dishonest, and all the other things HMO&#8217;s are.<br />
I say, first of all, to consider making hospitals not-for-profit. Here in the Holy State Of California, we have Kaiser which is  non-profit. I&#8217;ve had excellent luck with them.<br />
Secondly, I&#8217;d like to see the health care issue cut into smaller pieces and then approached for ideas.<br />
again, thanks for your excellent response.<br />
Sincerely, Grimmy</p>
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		<title>By: RS Janes</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grim, I&#039;m on board for most of your proposals, except these:

&quot;you simply need to quit being so angry and hateful!&quot;

I mostly just laugh at the right these days, although a couple of twisted dimwits like Bush and Cheney ruining the Constitution and getting our kids killed overseas tends to raise my hackles. If the Founders had taken your advice, there wouldn&#039;t be any Constitution or United States. 

&quot;and by that I don’t mean socialism, such as the govt take over of medicine (though I quickly admit, it needs improvement).&quot;

Call it what you want, I have had intimate encounters with the disastrous US health care system, and have read and heard at length about the &#039;socialized&#039; systems in Canada and Europe from people who have actually used them. Once you get past the self-serving HMO, Big Pharma and AMA propaganda, you begin to see that &#039;socialized&#039; single-payer universal health coverage for every citizen works much better than anything else anyone has come up with, and it&#039;s cheaper. You may shuder at the idea of some government bureaucrat deciding on your health care, but it doesn&#039;t work in practice that way, and we can always vote in people to change it. If you were a patient/victim of our bizarre for-profit health care system, you&#039;d shudder more at the notion that someone you&#039;ve never met and can&#039;t vote out has control over whether you receive treatment or not and, God forbid, if you ever have any long-term illness, you would be at the mercy of these cruel little despots, cutting your insurance just when you need it most. I actually asked people at parties (makes me so popular) with private health insurance what they think about our system; 4 out of 5 can recite nightmares that would make you vomit, which I only hope isn&#039;t the symptom of something more serious, if you&#039;re depending on US doctors and their HMO overseers to cure you. Our system is run not for the health of the patient, but the profits of the health care companies and the doctors and hospitals. How obscene and criminal would come home to you if you&#039;ve ever watched one of your family deteriorate because they couldn&#039;t afford their drugs, no company would insure them, and they couldn&#039;t get Medicaid.

&quot;- Require all foreign language television programming in this country to have English subtitles.
This is an English speaking country.&quot;

Please. This is not a big deal, and most foreign language programs already have English subtitles.

&quot;- Demand that the Fed return to a non-inflating currency. Period.
Economists are intimidating. But they have also failed. Our inflation over the last 80 years is embarrassing, costly, unnecessary. Only the federal govt benefits from inflation. You dems could stoutly and loudly defend the poor, the hardest hit by inflation by demanding the Fed to return to sound currency. It would be a glorious day for all of you, champions of the underprivileged!&quot;

As I posted in another thread, this would require a return to the gold and silver standard and that&#039;s not gonna happen -- we don&#039;t have enough gold and silver to cover our Federal Reserve Notes.

&quot;Explore the idea of a national sales tax, completely eliminating the individual federal income tax.&quot;

I&#039;m all for getting rid of the income tax, and imposing more tariffs and higher taxes on coporations. A national sales tax is fine, as long as it is done fairly (i.e.: a higher tax on luxuries, and lower or no tax on necessities.)

&quot;This ties taxes to the economy giving government incentive to come up with excellent economic policy and all because of you! The repubs can’t do it alone.&quot;

Come on, Grim -- the Republicans aren&#039;t even trying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grim, I&#8217;m on board for most of your proposals, except these:</p>
<p>&#8220;you simply need to quit being so angry and hateful!&#8221;</p>
<p>I mostly just laugh at the right these days, although a couple of twisted dimwits like Bush and Cheney ruining the Constitution and getting our kids killed overseas tends to raise my hackles. If the Founders had taken your advice, there wouldn&#8217;t be any Constitution or United States. </p>
<p>&#8220;and by that I don’t mean socialism, such as the govt take over of medicine (though I quickly admit, it needs improvement).&#8221;</p>
<p>Call it what you want, I have had intimate encounters with the disastrous US health care system, and have read and heard at length about the &#8216;socialized&#8217; systems in Canada and Europe from people who have actually used them. Once you get past the self-serving HMO, Big Pharma and AMA propaganda, you begin to see that &#8216;socialized&#8217; single-payer universal health coverage for every citizen works much better than anything else anyone has come up with, and it&#8217;s cheaper. You may shuder at the idea of some government bureaucrat deciding on your health care, but it doesn&#8217;t work in practice that way, and we can always vote in people to change it. If you were a patient/victim of our bizarre for-profit health care system, you&#8217;d shudder more at the notion that someone you&#8217;ve never met and can&#8217;t vote out has control over whether you receive treatment or not and, God forbid, if you ever have any long-term illness, you would be at the mercy of these cruel little despots, cutting your insurance just when you need it most. I actually asked people at parties (makes me so popular) with private health insurance what they think about our system; 4 out of 5 can recite nightmares that would make you vomit, which I only hope isn&#8217;t the symptom of something more serious, if you&#8217;re depending on US doctors and their HMO overseers to cure you. Our system is run not for the health of the patient, but the profits of the health care companies and the doctors and hospitals. How obscene and criminal would come home to you if you&#8217;ve ever watched one of your family deteriorate because they couldn&#8217;t afford their drugs, no company would insure them, and they couldn&#8217;t get Medicaid.</p>
<p>&#8220;- Require all foreign language television programming in this country to have English subtitles.<br />
This is an English speaking country.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please. This is not a big deal, and most foreign language programs already have English subtitles.</p>
<p>&#8220;- Demand that the Fed return to a non-inflating currency. Period.<br />
Economists are intimidating. But they have also failed. Our inflation over the last 80 years is embarrassing, costly, unnecessary. Only the federal govt benefits from inflation. You dems could stoutly and loudly defend the poor, the hardest hit by inflation by demanding the Fed to return to sound currency. It would be a glorious day for all of you, champions of the underprivileged!&#8221;</p>
<p>As I posted in another thread, this would require a return to the gold and silver standard and that&#8217;s not gonna happen &#8212; we don&#8217;t have enough gold and silver to cover our Federal Reserve Notes.</p>
<p>&#8220;Explore the idea of a national sales tax, completely eliminating the individual federal income tax.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for getting rid of the income tax, and imposing more tariffs and higher taxes on coporations. A national sales tax is fine, as long as it is done fairly (i.e.: a higher tax on luxuries, and lower or no tax on necessities.)</p>
<p>&#8220;This ties taxes to the economy giving government incentive to come up with excellent economic policy and all because of you! The repubs can’t do it alone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Come on, Grim &#8212; the Republicans aren&#8217;t even trying.</p>
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