I live near a major highway; the global warming debate aside, just getting rid of auto emissions like carbon monoxide would make my life better, and the technology is either in use or just around the corner to have nearly pollution-free vehicles that get 50 MPH but with the same performance as an internal combustion engine — who can argue with that?

Unfortunately, we’re going to have to elect people to enact mandates for the auto industry, since most of them — Toyota and Honda being two exceptions — aren’t going to do this on their own.

You have a happy new year, too, Grim, and everyone else here.

Even though Al is wrong in his belief that the evil United States is causing global warming and should stop it immediately, it is a good thing to do what he wants to a large extent – continue to clean up our act.
Amazingly enough I’m a conservative republican and yet like the idea of clean air and water.
However, it isn’t a good idea to panic and hysterically yowl that the end is near.
It’s very likely that humans didn’t cause global warming nor can they stop it.
I’m surprised that Avery comes with such poor credentials, I didn’t know. Once in awhile Oddcat slaps me around for innocently quoting a blue meany like Avery apparently is. Thanks for the info.
Happy New Year to you all!
Grimmy

He has been guilty of twisting or quoting scientists out of context to make a point entirely different than the point the scientist was making. He invented this quote by Dr. Robert Tauxe, chief of the CDC’s Foodborne and Diarrheal Diseases Branch: “Organic food means a food was grown in animal manure.”[2]

Tauxe called Avery and told to stop claiming that the CDC was the source of this allegation. Avery responded by telling Tauxe, “That’s your interpretation, and I have mine.”

Avery also said his information came from Dr. Paul Mead, an epidemiologist who works for the CDC. Mead also told Avery to knock it off: “What happened is that he called me up and announced that eight percent of the outbreaks of foodborne illness were from organic food. I took some exception to that and said I didn’t know him and what his purpose was, but our data don’t support that.”

Avery is nothing more than a bought-and-paid-for fraud with no credibility nor scientific training.

[1] http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Trashing_organic_foods

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/adventure-travel/greenland/global-warming.html

About Antarctic ice:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/06/050630064726.htm

About polar bears:

http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/bear-facts/

I quote from the above link:

Some Native communities in Canada have been reporting increasing numbers of polar bears on land. Traditional hunters believe this indicates an increased population, although the increased presence on land may, in fact, be related to shrinking sea ice and changes in the bears’ distribution patterns. Data is needed to understand the change. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service states, “In the declining polar bear population of Canada’s Western Hudson Bay, extensive scientific studies have indicated that the increased observation of bears on land is a result of changing distribution patterns and a result of changes in the accessibility of sea ice habitat.”

Also, check out the documentation reported by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change:

http://www.ipcc.ch/

Greenland:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v346/n6279/abs/346045a0.html

The impact of permafrost releasing greenhouse gases:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1109/p01s03-sten.html

Let me ask you this: if people like you are wrong, then the consequences will ultimately be horrific. If people like me are wrong, the consequences will be less pollution, less dependence on oil from nutjobs like Chavez and
Ahmadinejad, and a more rational, efficient economy. And no, we won’t have to live less well–we’ll live just as well, only smarter.

This anti-climate change stuff coming from the right is being funded overwhelmingly by oil companies and other corporate entities who have a vested interest in keeping consumption of their products high. Just follow the money and you’ll see why ExxonMobil is so determined to confuse the public debate on this issue.

Again, how much evidence would be enough?

Joe

Source:http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2007/11/hostile-climate-whos-behind-attack-on_13.asp

And a short public list of the organizations on the Exxon payroll:

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/listorganizations.php

Seems Avery is a Scientific genius whose grants wont be drying up anytime soon.
Cheers.