Comments on: Conspiracy in New Hampshire

By: RS Janes

RS Janes — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:45:13 +0000

It’s hard to say what happened; some in the Big Media have speculated that, because the weather was nice, more older people came out to vote, and they’re big Hillary supporters. I also think that a lot of the college kids who were hot for Obama probably saw the polls and projections — in one he was 15 points ahead — got stoned at the dorm and figured he was so far ahead they didn’t have to bother to vote.

It’d be nice if there was an investigation, but I won’t hold my breath — her victory is now yesterday’s news to the BM, and the NH Dems don’t seem to care.

Bart, Obama may be crashing in flames soon, leaving a clear path to Hill — he was just endorsed by Losin’ John Kerry yesterday, a bad omen and probably the kiss of death for Barack.

By: jairstokes

jairstokes — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:28:05 +0000

And now it begins…

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080110006236&newsLang=en

Lose a Kucinich, Gain a Mile.

By: captmathman

captmathman — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:27:23 +0000

Well, Bev Harris has weighed in:

http://www.mediatakeout.com/20885/conspiracy_new_reports_suggest_that_hillary_may_have_actually_lost_the_new_hampshire_primary.html

The fact is, whatever actually happened in New Hampshire voting booths on Tuesday, our elections are horrifically insecure. For instance, Bev Harris, of the highly respected voting watchdog organization Black Box Voting, recently wrote that the Diebold 1.94w optical scan machines used in some 55 percent of New Hampshire precincts (representing more than 80 percent of the state’s voters) are “the exact same make, model and version hacked in the Black Box Voting project in Leon County (Florida)” a few years ago. They haven’t been upgraded; the security problems haven’t been fixed.

National, or at least media, denial about this situation doesn’t say much for the strength of our democracy.

By: alex

alex — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:33:46 +0000

Just want to tip my hat to you Bart. I know that Hillary is your candidate, yet you are still willing to be skeptical about her victory. Here’s to you for being fair-minded.

Alex

By: grimgold

grimgold — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:28:35 +0000

N, you could be right, however the Main Scream Media to this day blames Dean’s failure on his scream. They are wrong.
Bear, the Media wants a close contest – better ratings. I think they even cherry-pick polls toward that end. “Clinton cheating” would help prop up O after NH, keeping the heat on both.
Buzzchilly, I’m inclined to agree with you.

By: Danger Bear

Danger Bear — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:08:59 +0000

Ha, my thoughts exactly Fenway.

My personal speculation is that the media had their “Clinton Goes Down in Flames” and “Hillary Cheats” scripts written weeks ago.

By: buzzchilly

buzzchilly — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:02:31 +0000

It was a perfect storm. A combination of many things including Bill Clinton’s rant on the Obama fairy tale.

By: Fenway

Fenway — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:51:28 +0000

So Clinton Acts all choked up to get the sympathy vote, hires two people to act like idiots for the women vote, and then steals the rest in an amazing vote fixing scheme that even Bush couldn’t pull off. She is amazing! No wonder I want her to be President.

By: greyhawk

greyhawk — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:46:46 +0000

Okay, let me say I apologize for suggesting that the two neanderthals might be plants. Bart’s buddy Robert Parry has their names and links them to a radio show. (Where’s the FCC at on this one?)

http://consortiumnews.com/2008/010908.html

By: N

Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:34:50 +0000

Grim are you sure you were watching the same election cycle the rest of us were in 2004. Dean was on fire but as Fenway mentioned when push came to shove people became concerned that Dean couldnt handle the job. Obama is a lightweight in many areas and when people took a hard look at him beyond the pie in the sky rhetoric they didn’t see a president.

By: grimgold

grimgold — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:05:33 +0000

Your Dean bombed out because he pointed at that fellow and told him to sit down and let him answer the question – he almost told him to sit down and shut up.
That’s what did it, not his “EEEEOOOOOUUUUUHHHAAAAAA” or anything else.

By: Fenway

Fenway — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:17:19 +0000

What have we got besides speculation? I told you what I saw at the polls and I can’t imagine anything getting past that crew. Derry is always one of the last towns to report. I’ve sat there watching them count multiple times and they’re serious.
Speaking of speculation here’s one of mine. Dean bombed out in Iowa because his honeymoon was over and people started getting nervous that he might not be able to handle the job. When the NH Democrats saw what looked like an Obama lock they started second guessing. Sure they like him but is he really strong enough to be President?

By: greyhawk

greyhawk — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:49:09 +0000

Could have been either. After all she got a lot of sympathy from that.