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	<title>Comments on: Bart, consider YOUR OWN interests&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: macrobank</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know Bart&#039;s site is humor-based and I know he&#039;s supporting Hillary.  But I live in California.  I watched as Phil Angeledis and Steve Westly DESTROYED each other looong before the actual election that returned Ah-nold to the Governor&#039;s mansion and I fear I see the same seeds germinating in Dems regarding Hillary vs Barack. (I have to add that Angeledis v Westly WAS a race between a couple of thieves and I don&#039;t see either Hillary or Barack that way.)

Of course Bart should support the candidate he thinks best as should the rest of us but the candidates are SO similar we&#039;ve taken to debating (and inflating) media-driven bullshit and it&#039;s causing people to become entrenched in their positions.

For me?  I lean toward Barack mostly because I prefer his health care plan and I object to Hillary&#039;s vote on Kyl-Lieberman.  I&#039;d be perfectly happy to have her in the Oval Office, just a bit happier to see Barack there...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Bart&#8217;s site is humor-based and I know he&#8217;s supporting Hillary.  But I live in California.  I watched as Phil Angeledis and Steve Westly DESTROYED each other looong before the actual election that returned Ah-nold to the Governor&#8217;s mansion and I fear I see the same seeds germinating in Dems regarding Hillary vs Barack. (I have to add that Angeledis v Westly WAS a race between a couple of thieves and I don&#8217;t see either Hillary or Barack that way.)</p>
<p>Of course Bart should support the candidate he thinks best as should the rest of us but the candidates are SO similar we&#8217;ve taken to debating (and inflating) media-driven bullshit and it&#8217;s causing people to become entrenched in their positions.</p>
<p>For me?  I lean toward Barack mostly because I prefer his health care plan and I object to Hillary&#8217;s vote on Kyl-Lieberman.  I&#8217;d be perfectly happy to have her in the Oval Office, just a bit happier to see Barack there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RS Janes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Macrobank, I wouldn&#039;t take everything Bart says about Obama entirely seriously -- he IS running a humor site -- but there are no doubts he fervently supports Hillary.

As I&#039;ve written here before, I am not an automatic Hillary-hater, and I&#039;ll vote for her if she&#039;s the Dem nominee, but I just think Obama would be the stronger candidate, warts and all, as he&#039;s shown he can motivate large numbers of people, including first-time voters, and the types who swear they&#039;ll never vote for Hillary. (I&#039;m also kind of appalled that she didn&#039;t have a Plan B following Super Tuesday. Watch that hubris.) It&#039;s not her fault: Hill just doesn&#039;t have the kind of natural charisma Obama has -- hubby Bill does, she doesn&#039;t, and you can&#039;t force it, buy it, or learn it.

For various other reasons, I think Obama would have an easier time beating McCain, but if she can pull out the next three big states with impressive numbers, than that will show she&#039;s capable of coming back and winning it all, which will be important in the general election.

In a relatively short amount of time, Obama has gone from nothing to the frontrunner -- the man is a smart politician who knows how to inspire an audience and he knows how to organize a ground game, qualities most progressive candidates sorely lack. And if you think he&#039;s going to crumple under the GOP assault forces -- well, you didn&#039;t see him in action in Illinois, as I have. He&#039;s quiet, but deadly.

Far from being a pony, Obama is a gift horse, and I hope we&#039;ll all support him if he&#039;s the Dem nominee, just as we should all support Hillary if she wins the nomination. One thing&#039;s for sure: The country can&#039;t survive four more years of a Bush Republican in the White House.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Macrobank, I wouldn&#8217;t take everything Bart says about Obama entirely seriously &#8212; he IS running a humor site &#8212; but there are no doubts he fervently supports Hillary.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve written here before, I am not an automatic Hillary-hater, and I&#8217;ll vote for her if she&#8217;s the Dem nominee, but I just think Obama would be the stronger candidate, warts and all, as he&#8217;s shown he can motivate large numbers of people, including first-time voters, and the types who swear they&#8217;ll never vote for Hillary. (I&#8217;m also kind of appalled that she didn&#8217;t have a Plan B following Super Tuesday. Watch that hubris.) It&#8217;s not her fault: Hill just doesn&#8217;t have the kind of natural charisma Obama has &#8212; hubby Bill does, she doesn&#8217;t, and you can&#8217;t force it, buy it, or learn it.</p>
<p>For various other reasons, I think Obama would have an easier time beating McCain, but if she can pull out the next three big states with impressive numbers, than that will show she&#8217;s capable of coming back and winning it all, which will be important in the general election.</p>
<p>In a relatively short amount of time, Obama has gone from nothing to the frontrunner &#8212; the man is a smart politician who knows how to inspire an audience and he knows how to organize a ground game, qualities most progressive candidates sorely lack. And if you think he&#8217;s going to crumple under the GOP assault forces &#8212; well, you didn&#8217;t see him in action in Illinois, as I have. He&#8217;s quiet, but deadly.</p>
<p>Far from being a pony, Obama is a gift horse, and I hope we&#8217;ll all support him if he&#8217;s the Dem nominee, just as we should all support Hillary if she wins the nomination. One thing&#8217;s for sure: The country can&#8217;t survive four more years of a Bush Republican in the White House.</p>
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