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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cannot figure out how your link system works, bart.

The linked text above should show &quot;Rocky Anderson&quot; and not the rest of my text... sorry!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot figure out how your link system works, bart.</p>
<p>The linked text above should show &#8220;Rocky Anderson&#8221; and not the rest of my text&#8230; sorry!</p>
<p>drew</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Bart, 

I&#039;m dancing off the side of this issue, because I&#039;d like to see you help add voices to the &#039;presidential candidates&#039; ring&#039;... 

damn! it wasn&#039;t but a few months ago that  &lt;a href=&quot;http://crystelzenmud.blogspot.com/2006/09/anderson-and-olbermann-for-2008.html&quot; title=&quot;Rocky Anderson&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; wrote one of the great speeches of our day (Rocky Anderson, if my attempt to link failed) 

&lt;b&gt;&quot;Blind faith in bad leaders is not patriotism.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

and a guy like that should be talked up among all the hot Dem websites and blogs  (more popular than mine...) :-)

I was stricken when Howard Dean went off the national stage, simply because the replayed coverage had used a shotgun mike (which excludes side noise, or here crowd noise)!

One cheap trick, Swiftboat or shotgun mike can off another hot candidate: we need to get the prominent and articulate potential candidates onto the &#039;democratic street&#039; (as Tom Friedman might say).

Drew]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bart, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m dancing off the side of this issue, because I&#8217;d like to see you help add voices to the &#8216;presidential candidates&#8217; ring&#8217;&#8230; </p>
<p>damn! it wasn&#8217;t but a few months ago that  <a href="http://crystelzenmud.blogspot.com/2006/09/anderson-and-olbermann-for-2008.html" title="Rocky Anderson" rel="nofollow"> wrote one of the great speeches of our day (Rocky Anderson, if my attempt to link failed) </p>
<p><b>&#8220;Blind faith in bad leaders is not patriotism.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>and a guy like that should be talked up among all the hot Dem websites and blogs  (more popular than mine&#8230;) <img src="https://bartblog.bartcop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>I was stricken when Howard Dean went off the national stage, simply because the replayed coverage had used a shotgun mike (which excludes side noise, or here crowd noise)!</p>
<p>One cheap trick, Swiftboat or shotgun mike can off another hot candidate: we need to get the prominent and articulate potential candidates onto the &#8216;democratic street&#8217; (as Tom Friedman might say).</p>
<p>Drew</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
		<link>https://bartblog.bartcop.com/?p=42&#038;cpage=1#comment-203</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 00:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fud wrote:

(Which ever way the wind blows is not someone i look for in a leader, I’ll keep harping on this till she loses the nomination because she can’t win. It’s just simple math.) 

Dec 26, Bill told Ellen that Hillary got 60 percent of the vote in New York&#039;s two most Republican districts. I predict you will do a 180 and say, &quot;That&#039;s because she&#039;s Bush&#039;s twin.&quot;

You can&#039;t have it both ways, my friend.

Like you said, it&#039;s simple math.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fud wrote:</p>
<p>(Which ever way the wind blows is not someone i look for in a leader, I’ll keep harping on this till she loses the nomination because she can’t win. It’s just simple math.) </p>
<p>Dec 26, Bill told Ellen that Hillary got 60 percent of the vote in New York&#8217;s two most Republican districts. I predict you will do a 180 and say, &#8220;That&#8217;s because she&#8217;s Bush&#8217;s twin.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t have it both ways, my friend.</p>
<p>Like you said, it&#8217;s simple math.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 00:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy wrote:

(While on the topic of stopping lies, you might want to fact-check some of the allegations against Kos.)

The &quot;allegations against Kos&quot; are facts.

The fact is when the lying whore media wants to convince people that Hillary has no chance, they quote (or misquote) Kos and explain that he&#039;s the biggest Dem website there is.

Is Kos powerless to remove the poll that the whore media uses to prove their lie that Hillary is hovering around one percent?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy wrote:</p>
<p>(While on the topic of stopping lies, you might want to fact-check some of the allegations against Kos.)</p>
<p>The &#8220;allegations against Kos&#8221; are facts.</p>
<p>The fact is when the lying whore media wants to convince people that Hillary has no chance, they quote (or misquote) Kos and explain that he&#8217;s the biggest Dem website there is.</p>
<p>Is Kos powerless to remove the poll that the whore media uses to prove their lie that Hillary is hovering around one percent?</p>
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		<title>By: Fud</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt; Which ever way the wind blows is not someone i look for in a leader, I&#039;ll keep harping on this till she loses the nomination because she can&#039;t win. No republican will ever vote for her and the left is split on her. It&#039;s just simple math. They don&#039;t even have to cheat to win this one if she is the front runner. &lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Which ever way the wind blows is not someone i look for in a leader, I&#8217;ll keep harping on this till she loses the nomination because she can&#8217;t win. No republican will ever vote for her and the left is split on her. It&#8217;s just simple math. They don&#8217;t even have to cheat to win this one if she is the front runner. </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Avedon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure Edwards qualifies anymore as a Pink Tutu Dem.  For one thing, I think he was the first of the ones who voted for the Iraq resolution to stand up and say he was wrong to do so.

Hillary has finally said so, too, but only after lots of other people did first.

Which means Edwards is showing more leadership than Hillary is.

I think Hillary might be able to win, so it&#039;s not a matter of &quot;electability&quot;.  

But I don&#039;t like political dynasties (Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton - I hate the thought), and I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve forgiven Hillary for screwing up the healthcare thing and not even having the guts to mention single-payer when &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt; wanted universal healthcare.

I think she&#039;s too much of a fraidy-cat and I want someone with real guts.  I keep waiting for her to show &#039;em.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure Edwards qualifies anymore as a Pink Tutu Dem.  For one thing, I think he was the first of the ones who voted for the Iraq resolution to stand up and say he was wrong to do so.</p>
<p>Hillary has finally said so, too, but only after lots of other people did first.</p>
<p>Which means Edwards is showing more leadership than Hillary is.</p>
<p>I think Hillary might be able to win, so it&#8217;s not a matter of &#8220;electability&#8221;.  </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t like political dynasties (Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton &#8211; I hate the thought), and I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve forgiven Hillary for screwing up the healthcare thing and not even having the guts to mention single-payer when <i>everyone</i> wanted universal healthcare.</p>
<p>I think she&#8217;s too much of a fraidy-cat and I want someone with real guts.  I keep waiting for her to show &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: happymisanthropy</title>
		<link>https://bartblog.bartcop.com/?p=42&#038;cpage=1#comment-180</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bart,
&quot;[settle for Hillary?]…to avoid 4 more years of BFEE?&quot;

But I disagree that Hillary would be &#039;more electable&#039; than someone who actually opposes the BFEE.  You can&#039;t outrun the elephant when you&#039;re carrying the elephant.

&quot;…perhaps an optomitrist could help?&quot;

Why don&#039;t you show us what Hil is doing that you&#039;re so enthusiastic about?  Then maybe you&#039;ll convince some critics.

&quot;I’m just asking for the lies to stop.
Is that out of line?&quot;

No.  Fair enough.  But I want Hillary and Edwards and the Pink Tutu clan held to the same standards.  Is that out of line?

(While on the topic of stopping lies, you might want to fact-check some of the allegations against Kos.)

&quot;…Question:
Will you vote Dem in 08?&quot;

I plan to, under any scenario.  I don&#039;t make promises.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bart,<br />
&#8220;[settle for Hillary?]…to avoid 4 more years of BFEE?&#8221;</p>
<p>But I disagree that Hillary would be &#8216;more electable&#8217; than someone who actually opposes the BFEE.  You can&#8217;t outrun the elephant when you&#8217;re carrying the elephant.</p>
<p>&#8220;…perhaps an optomitrist could help?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you show us what Hil is doing that you&#8217;re so enthusiastic about?  Then maybe you&#8217;ll convince some critics.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m just asking for the lies to stop.<br />
Is that out of line?&#8221;</p>
<p>No.  Fair enough.  But I want Hillary and Edwards and the Pink Tutu clan held to the same standards.  Is that out of line?</p>
<p>(While on the topic of stopping lies, you might want to fact-check some of the allegations against Kos.)</p>
<p>&#8220;…Question:<br />
Will you vote Dem in 08?&#8221;</p>
<p>I plan to, under any scenario.  I don&#8217;t make promises.</p>
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		<title>By: Figaro</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a life-long Democrat it&#039;s difficult for me to diss Hillary, but as far as I&#039;m concerned she&#039;s a ruthless, power-hungry opportunist who can&#039;t bring herself to risk losing her pro-Israel support by admitting her backing of Bush&#039;s war was the one mistake she will never live down, especially in 2008. I see today in the news, she still won&#039;t back down. And the say Bush can&#039;t face reality!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a life-long Democrat it&#8217;s difficult for me to diss Hillary, but as far as I&#8217;m concerned she&#8217;s a ruthless, power-hungry opportunist who can&#8217;t bring herself to risk losing her pro-Israel support by admitting her backing of Bush&#8217;s war was the one mistake she will never live down, especially in 2008. I see today in the news, she still won&#8217;t back down. And the say Bush can&#8217;t face reality!</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grey Bob, I can only assume you see Hillary and Bush as twins.

That is a mistake.
The GOP will spend up to $500M to try to
prevent &quot;Bush&#039;s twin&quot; from winning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grey Bob, I can only assume you see Hillary and Bush as twins.</p>
<p>That is a mistake.<br />
The GOP will spend up to $500M to try to<br />
prevent &#8220;Bush&#8217;s twin&#8221; from winning.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To &quot;happy&quot;

All I want is a Prez to the left of Dick Nixon. Why should I have to settle for Hillary?

...to avoid 4 more years of BFEE?

Before the campaign starts, she’s giving us the finger.
During the campaign, she’ll give us the finger.
If she takes office, she’ll give us the finger.

...perhaps an optomitrist could help?

How long are you going to not only support her, but proclaim her above criticism?

...I&#039;ll bet you can&#039;t quote me where I said that.
I&#039;m just asking for the lies to stop.
Is that out of line?

...Question:
Will you vote Dem in 08?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8220;happy&#8221;</p>
<p>All I want is a Prez to the left of Dick Nixon. Why should I have to settle for Hillary?</p>
<p>&#8230;to avoid 4 more years of BFEE?</p>
<p>Before the campaign starts, she’s giving us the finger.<br />
During the campaign, she’ll give us the finger.<br />
If she takes office, she’ll give us the finger.</p>
<p>&#8230;perhaps an optomitrist could help?</p>
<p>How long are you going to not only support her, but proclaim her above criticism?</p>
<p>&#8230;I&#8217;ll bet you can&#8217;t quote me where I said that.<br />
I&#8217;m just asking for the lies to stop.<br />
Is that out of line?</p>
<p>&#8230;Question:<br />
Will you vote Dem in 08?</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Avedon, if anyone&#039;s telling you to support how to vote, it&#039;s the mainstream media and the websites running the crooked polls that say the front runner has no chance.

They&#039;re trying to limit your options.
Not me.

All I&#039;ve asked is that you vote Demo in Nov 08.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avedon, if anyone&#8217;s telling you to support how to vote, it&#8217;s the mainstream media and the websites running the crooked polls that say the front runner has no chance.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re trying to limit your options.<br />
Not me.</p>
<p>All I&#8217;ve asked is that you vote Demo in Nov 08.</p>
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		<title>By: Ekim</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is interesting.  Newsweek has a poll showing that Clinton would beat McCain but that Obama wouldn&#039;t and in their article about the two, they didn&#039;t even mention it.  Wonder why?  (From Atrios:  &quot;I bet this poll won&#039;t get any coverage. In fact, I couldn&#039;t even find coverage of it in Newsweek itself, aside from the linked press release.

Clinton&#039;s up 50-43 over McCain, 48-47 over Three Wives Giuliani, 58-32 over Mitt Romney.

McCain beats Obama 45-43, Giuliani beats Obama 47-44, Obama beats Romney 55-25.

Early polls like this don&#039;t really mean much but they do drive news coverage. Unless they&#039;re just ignored of course.


...Bowers has more on how Newsweek is ignoring its own poll.&quot;)  MyDD has much more in detail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting.  Newsweek has a poll showing that Clinton would beat McCain but that Obama wouldn&#8217;t and in their article about the two, they didn&#8217;t even mention it.  Wonder why?  (From Atrios:  &#8220;I bet this poll won&#8217;t get any coverage. In fact, I couldn&#8217;t even find coverage of it in Newsweek itself, aside from the linked press release.</p>
<p>Clinton&#8217;s up 50-43 over McCain, 48-47 over Three Wives Giuliani, 58-32 over Mitt Romney.</p>
<p>McCain beats Obama 45-43, Giuliani beats Obama 47-44, Obama beats Romney 55-25.</p>
<p>Early polls like this don&#8217;t really mean much but they do drive news coverage. Unless they&#8217;re just ignored of course.</p>
<p>&#8230;Bowers has more on how Newsweek is ignoring its own poll.&#8221;)  MyDD has much more in detail.</p>
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		<title>By: carol</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She is still my favorite.  I primarily vote Anti-republican, which means I&#039;ll vote for the Dem nominee, but she is my favorite.  I&#039;d prefer a ticket with any combo of Her, Obama, Clark and Edwards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is still my favorite.  I primarily vote Anti-republican, which means I&#8217;ll vote for the Dem nominee, but she is my favorite.  I&#8217;d prefer a ticket with any combo of Her, Obama, Clark and Edwards.</p>
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