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By: Danger Bear

Danger Bear — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:12:41 +0000

Bittershaman, I believe the contraband in question is called Hopium. I hear it gives a great buzz, but its highly addictive and has been known to cause mild agression and paranoia. If your msnbc viewing lasts longer than four hours, please consult your physician immediately.

By: bittershaman

bittershaman — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 00:14:23 +0000

Of course you can’t convict someone on body language. You can use it as a tool to help you know if you should trust them.
Since when did Fitzgerald become part of the GOP smear machine? Isn’t his reputation worth “innocent until proven guilty”?
I’m not sucked in by anyone’s smear machine.
However, I’m not sure what you people have been smoking.

By: RS Janes

RS Janes — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:14:40 +0000

Bittershaman, you can’t convict someone on the basis of body language, and I think you know that. The danger here, aside from the ones I presented in the Tattlesnake piece, is summed up by Matt Rothschild at The Progressive:

“A prosecutor, by accusation alone, should not be allowed to throw someone out of elective office.

“Remember, Blagojevich hasn’t even been indicted yet, much less convicted.

“To deny him his authority on the basis of a criminal complaint is to hand a prosecutor enormous power.

“We saw how Ken Starr tried to exercise such power.

“Overturning an election by prosecutorial accusation is profoundly anti-democratic.”
– http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/116935/

Should we just toss out of office any Democrat that Fitzgerald decides to target and arrest? (And he can arrest whoever he wants.) Didn’t we learn anything from the empty allegations against Bill Clinton? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? And, BTW, Fitzgerald announced nearly four weeks ago that Blago was on a “crime spree” when he arrested him. If that’s the case, Pat hasn’t done much since then to stop it — he has yet to empanel a Grand Jury and indict the man — what’s he waiting for? Maybe it’s something old fashioned — like evidence that a crime was actually committed.

So far, all Fitzgerald has is, supposedly, Blago talking about maybe taking bribes but nothing else. He might be able to remove him from office for a RICO-style conspiracy, unless the tapes in their entirety prove that Blago was just kidding — what if Blago was laughing, for example, when he talked about accepting bribes? We won’t know until Fitzy releases the tapes in full.

In the meantime, let’s not be sucked in by the GOP smear machine.

By: bittershaman

bittershaman — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:38:40 +0000

I clicked on the previous comment in the sidebar and was immediately redirected to the site instead of the bartblog.
I’m only making a comment here so the next person who checks the sidebar for new comments won’t get sent somewhere they didn’t ask for.

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Lock The Doors! Scary Black Man A-Comin’! « The Confluence — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:53:12 +0000

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By: bittershaman

bittershaman — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 00:15:36 +0000

I thought Bush’s body language showed he was an arrogant brat.
I think “Manichean” should be scorned and banned from discussions.
We don’t have to get our kerfuffles twisted in a wad; just wait 90 days and see what else comes up.

By: Joanne from WI

Joanne from WI — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 00:01:22 +0000

Body language? That sounds positively Manichean. Shall we strap Blago into a dunking machine and see if he drowns? Please – after Bush yakking for all these many years about how he can read body language, I should think that would be an assertion permanently scorned, if not banned, from civil discussions.

I AGREE with the author of this blog entry. The day this kerfuffle came to light, I said to my husband that I found it alarming that once again the Thought Police are at work trying to make speculative conversation a crime — and once again a Democratic governor is a target of the remnants of the Bush “Justice Department.” Fitz doesn’t have bupkus – that’s why he’s going to drag this out for another 90 days and then drop the whole thing. Blago may be a jerk, but he’s not stupid. He knows talking about crossing the line isn’t crossing the line – and it’s not a crime either.

You don’t have to like Blago to love our Constitution. He has the right to blab away to his heart’s content about what he thinks he is owed. It’s called free speech. Show me the money and I’ll reconsider my position.

By: bittershaman

bittershaman — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:42:40 +0000

I don’t think so.
Blogo is guilty as sin. Read his body language.
Look how he presented his “Seat me or you’re a lynching rascist” nominee.
I think Fitzgerald is waiting so he can present ALL possible charges. If this is how the Governor acts when he suspects he’s being wiretapped, what’s he been doing in secret?