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		<title>By: chin music</title>
		<link>https://bartblog.bartcop.com/?p=762&#038;cpage=1#comment-5016</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last one about the Winnebago is complete horseshit.  It is an urban myth that I have heard told in various different ways.  It never happened.  In my mind, that makes all the other stories equally invalid.  This article is apparently part of a public indoctrination campaign by the corporatocracy to push their version of tort &quot;reform&quot;;  i.e. removal of citizens rights to be compensated for legitimate wrongs and protect others from potential future injury.  When one takes the time to check the actual FACTS about lawsuit abuse, one finds that there really is very little such thing, over the past 20 years, at least.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last one about the Winnebago is complete horseshit.  It is an urban myth that I have heard told in various different ways.  It never happened.  In my mind, that makes all the other stories equally invalid.  This article is apparently part of a public indoctrination campaign by the corporatocracy to push their version of tort &#8220;reform&#8221;;  i.e. removal of citizens rights to be compensated for legitimate wrongs and protect others from potential future injury.  When one takes the time to check the actual FACTS about lawsuit abuse, one finds that there really is very little such thing, over the past 20 years, at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>https://bartblog.bartcop.com/?p=762&#038;cpage=1#comment-5014</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your somewhat right, as her verdict-award at Court, was reduced at the Appelate level... I think it was still a six-figure settlement, though.

I was hit on my bike while in Law school, was driver&#039;s fault. AND, they lied to their ins-co. (means: claims adjuster said she believed me, and not their client, was the wife that hit me).

So I said, at that time &quot;Do you want to settle with me soon, or do you want me to &#039;hire&#039; my professor?&quot;

We settled within 4months for about 10k plus meds plus a new wheel and handlebars (on a Colnago racing bike)... I could have slimed them for about 50k just by finding a lawyer to write a letter or three... 

didn&#039;t!

ZENmud aka Drew]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your somewhat right, as her verdict-award at Court, was reduced at the Appelate level&#8230; I think it was still a six-figure settlement, though.</p>
<p>I was hit on my bike while in Law school, was driver&#8217;s fault. AND, they lied to their ins-co. (means: claims adjuster said she believed me, and not their client, was the wife that hit me).</p>
<p>So I said, at that time &#8220;Do you want to settle with me soon, or do you want me to &#8216;hire&#8217; my professor?&#8221;</p>
<p>We settled within 4months for about 10k plus meds plus a new wheel and handlebars (on a Colnago racing bike)&#8230; I could have slimed them for about 50k just by finding a lawyer to write a letter or three&#8230; </p>
<p>didn&#8217;t!</p>
<p>ZENmud aka Drew</p>
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		<title>By: grimgold</title>
		<link>https://bartblog.bartcop.com/?p=762&#038;cpage=1#comment-5003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grimgold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is this?!? You guys all of a sudden coming out of the wood work? What a pleasent surprise. For a while I thought no one was reading at all. 
The women fried by McD coffee, by the way, did not get much money, certainly not the 1.5 million(?) she sued for. don&#039;t remember but I think it ended up at around $59,000.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this?!? You guys all of a sudden coming out of the wood work? What a pleasent surprise. For a while I thought no one was reading at all.<br />
The women fried by McD coffee, by the way, did not get much money, certainly not the 1.5 million(?) she sued for. don&#8217;t remember but I think it ended up at around $59,000.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>https://bartblog.bartcop.com/?p=762&#038;cpage=1#comment-4998</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey all, 

Randy, that conceived the &#039;Stella Awards&#039;, is a cool guy, a one-man-band, living in Colorado! Take a moment to visit the site...

http://www.stellaawards.com/

He is NOT a &#039;corporate shill&#039;... you&#039;ve obviously made up your mind based on my pal Bart&#039;s comments.

I AGREE with Bart about &#039;Stella v McDo&#039;s&#039;...

Did you read these awards? 

A burglar getting 14K from one of YOU: a homeowner he ROBBED?

A woman who tripped over her own SON? (what effect on him we don&#039;t know...) 80K from a furniture store... (prices going up...)

Lawsuits are a GREAT HAMMER to stop corp BS (see the Stella sentence above)... but they&#039;ve also become &#039;our god-given right&#039; to promote IRRESPONSIBILITY...

What happened to YOUR furniture store, with the bad publicity when some BIMBO tripped over her son and dragged you into court and the PRESS?

I&#039;ve been a contributor to Bart for many a years, writings and helping his first two annual budgets :-)

ZENmud aka Drew
http://crystelZENmud.blogspot.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all, </p>
<p>Randy, that conceived the &#8216;Stella Awards&#8217;, is a cool guy, a one-man-band, living in Colorado! Take a moment to visit the site&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stellaawards.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stellaawards.com/</a></p>
<p>He is NOT a &#8216;corporate shill&#8217;&#8230; you&#8217;ve obviously made up your mind based on my pal Bart&#8217;s comments.</p>
<p>I AGREE with Bart about &#8216;Stella v McDo&#8217;s&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>Did you read these awards? </p>
<p>A burglar getting 14K from one of YOU: a homeowner he ROBBED?</p>
<p>A woman who tripped over her own SON? (what effect on him we don&#8217;t know&#8230;) 80K from a furniture store&#8230; (prices going up&#8230;)</p>
<p>Lawsuits are a GREAT HAMMER to stop corp BS (see the Stella sentence above)&#8230; but they&#8217;ve also become &#8216;our god-given right&#8217; to promote IRRESPONSIBILITY&#8230;</p>
<p>What happened to YOUR furniture store, with the bad publicity when some BIMBO tripped over her son and dragged you into court and the PRESS?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a contributor to Bart for many a years, writings and helping his first two annual budgets <img src="https://bartblog.bartcop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>ZENmud aka Drew<br />
<a href="http://crystelZENmud.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://crystelZENmud.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: greyhawk</title>
		<link>https://bartblog.bartcop.com/?p=762&#038;cpage=1#comment-4996</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I apologize, I did not double check with snopes before posting. The jury remark stands with the coffee suit. I would like to know if your postions is that a person who has been the victim of a bad injury at the hands of another should have no legal recourse. 
What do you say to this case
http://www.dailymail.com/story/News/2007081043/Man-says-hold-the-cheese-claims-McDonalds-didnt-sues-for-10-million/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize, I did not double check with snopes before posting. The jury remark stands with the coffee suit. I would like to know if your postions is that a person who has been the victim of a bad injury at the hands of another should have no legal recourse.<br />
What do you say to this case<br />
<a href="http://www.dailymail.com/story/News/2007081043/Man-says-hold-the-cheese-claims-McDonalds-didnt-sues-for-10-million/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.com/story/News/2007081043/Man-says-hold-the-cheese-claims-McDonalds-didnt-sues-for-10-million/</a></p>
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		<title>By: greyhawk</title>
		<link>https://bartblog.bartcop.com/?p=762&#038;cpage=1#comment-4975</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[greyhawk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember in each of these cases, a JURY made an award. Not trial lawyers, not judges, not corporate shills. That means they were convinced they were right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember in each of these cases, a JURY made an award. Not trial lawyers, not judges, not corporate shills. That means they were convinced they were right.</p>
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		<title>By: Peregrin</title>
		<link>https://bartblog.bartcop.com/?p=762&#038;cpage=1#comment-4961</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peregrin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 04:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huge settlements are awarded against huge corporations because the only way to make them stop harmful behavior is to make it financially unsound.  This is why &quot;tort reform&quot; is a bad idea, promoted by pro-corporate shills.

The cases listed in this article are at best, incomplete, and at worst outright fabrications.  This is not to say that there are never outrageous lawsuits filed, but in most cases the jury can recognize such cases for what they are.  After all, anyone can sue anyone else over anything.  In fact, some of the worst frivolous lawsuits have been filed by large companies for the sole purpose of putting their smaller competitors out of business.

For anyone interested in actual lawsuits, I recommend Randy Cassingham&#039;s page &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stellaawards.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The TRUE Stella Awards&lt;/a&gt;.  There you can find all the facts about the McDonald&#039;s coffee case, as well as others.  It&#039;s really okay to laugh at the antics of our fellow man - but let&#039;s not stoop to making shit up to achieve some kind of political points.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huge settlements are awarded against huge corporations because the only way to make them stop harmful behavior is to make it financially unsound.  This is why &#8220;tort reform&#8221; is a bad idea, promoted by pro-corporate shills.</p>
<p>The cases listed in this article are at best, incomplete, and at worst outright fabrications.  This is not to say that there are never outrageous lawsuits filed, but in most cases the jury can recognize such cases for what they are.  After all, anyone can sue anyone else over anything.  In fact, some of the worst frivolous lawsuits have been filed by large companies for the sole purpose of putting their smaller competitors out of business.</p>
<p>For anyone interested in actual lawsuits, I recommend Randy Cassingham&#8217;s page <a href="http://www.stellaawards.com/" rel="nofollow">The TRUE Stella Awards</a>.  There you can find all the facts about the McDonald&#8217;s coffee case, as well as others.  It&#8217;s really okay to laugh at the antics of our fellow man &#8211; but let&#8217;s not stoop to making shit up to achieve some kind of political points.</p>
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		<title>By: Rainlander</title>
		<link>https://bartblog.bartcop.com/?p=762&#038;cpage=1#comment-4957</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rainlander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to agree strongly with those above in calling bullshit on the stella&#039;s as being nothing but corporate propaganda from the culture of corruption club no less.

Since Stella isnt here to defend herself,I am forced to remind some of an inconvienient fact:
The McDonalds coffeepot manufacturer was using 
inferior thermostats valued at around .15 cents
per unit.
when these malfunctioned, the coffee tested well
above the temperatures needed to cause serious burns.

below is a snippet from an article about Tom Delay and a frivolous lawsuit where he sued a manufacturer in a wrongful deathsuit and then turned around and pulled the plug on his own gray-haired daddy:

&quot;Further raising the hypocrisy quotient, in 1990 DeLay&#039;s family sued a manufacturer whose negligence they claimed caused the tram to careen out of control. The wrongful death suit, which included an affidavit filed by DeLay, was settled in 1993 for an undisclosed sum, believed to be $250,000&quot;

Here is a link to the original text:
http://www.dailycal.org/sharticle.php?id=18151

I&#039;m sorry but this post missed the mark,
usually it is excellent and I commend the mysterious Barto and Grim for the rest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree strongly with those above in calling bullshit on the stella&#8217;s as being nothing but corporate propaganda from the culture of corruption club no less.</p>
<p>Since Stella isnt here to defend herself,I am forced to remind some of an inconvienient fact:<br />
The McDonalds coffeepot manufacturer was using<br />
inferior thermostats valued at around .15 cents<br />
per unit.<br />
when these malfunctioned, the coffee tested well<br />
above the temperatures needed to cause serious burns.</p>
<p>below is a snippet from an article about Tom Delay and a frivolous lawsuit where he sued a manufacturer in a wrongful deathsuit and then turned around and pulled the plug on his own gray-haired daddy:</p>
<p>&#8220;Further raising the hypocrisy quotient, in 1990 DeLay&#8217;s family sued a manufacturer whose negligence they claimed caused the tram to careen out of control. The wrongful death suit, which included an affidavit filed by DeLay, was settled in 1993 for an undisclosed sum, believed to be $250,000&#8243;</p>
<p>Here is a link to the original text:<br />
<a href="http://www.dailycal.org/sharticle.php?id=18151" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailycal.org/sharticle.php?id=18151</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but this post missed the mark,<br />
usually it is excellent and I commend the mysterious Barto and Grim for the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: CaliforniaDave</title>
		<link>https://bartblog.bartcop.com/?p=762&#038;cpage=1#comment-4945</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CaliforniaDave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, this is complete horseshit!!!

Propoganda by corporate America to limit class action and liability all together. 

McDonalds was warned over and over not to go into the pre-set coffee machines and set them to a higher temperature (shitty coffee tastes better when really hot - known fact). 

The coffee was so hot it put 3rd Degree burns on the old woman&#039;s private parts.  She deserved to win that case!  Corporations have to much power and McDonalds was justly smacked down!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, this is complete horseshit!!!</p>
<p>Propoganda by corporate America to limit class action and liability all together. </p>
<p>McDonalds was warned over and over not to go into the pre-set coffee machines and set them to a higher temperature (shitty coffee tastes better when really hot &#8211; known fact). </p>
<p>The coffee was so hot it put 3rd Degree burns on the old woman&#8217;s private parts.  She deserved to win that case!  Corporations have to much power and McDonalds was justly smacked down!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Cerberus</title>
		<link>https://bartblog.bartcop.com/?p=762&#038;cpage=1#comment-4938</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cerberus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a three-way tie for 5th place.

Some serious Joementum going on there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a three-way tie for 5th place.</p>
<p>Some serious Joementum going on there.</p>
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		<title>By: Chicago Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chicago Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Take a look at this link - http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_stella_awards.htm - and  this link - http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp to see what BS this is. It seems typical of conservatives to take something that is 95% made up crap and turn it into &quot;truth&quot; to support broad-stroke, fallacious beliefs.
&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at this link &#8211; <a href="http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_stella_awards.htm" rel="nofollow">http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_stella_awards.htm</a> &#8211; and  this link &#8211; <a href="http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp</a> to see what BS this is. It seems typical of conservatives to take something that is 95% made up crap and turn it into &#8220;truth&#8221; to support broad-stroke, fallacious beliefs.</p>
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