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December 19, 2007

Ron Paul’s problems

Filed under: Uncategorized — Bart @ 11:16 pm

Written by Zen Ferret

So what does Ron Paul believe in?
Lets find out how’s he’s rated by votes and comments:

How has he voted?
Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
Voted YES on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998)
Rated 67% by the ACLU, indicating a mixed civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002) [ A mixed record NOT a strong pro civil rights record.]
Don’t ask, don’t tell is a decent policy for gays in army. (Jun 2007)

Anti corporate power? Nope
Voted NO on allowing stockholder voting on executive compensation. (Apr 2007)
Voted YES on Bankruptcy Overhaul requiring partial debt repayment. (Mar 2001)
Opposes “hate crimes” legislation. (Sep 2007)

Present scientific facts that support creationism. (Sep 2007)
Equal funds for abstinence as contraceptive-based education. (Sep 2007)
Tax-credited programs for Christian schooling. (Sep 2007)
Guarantee parity for home school diplomas. (Sep 2007)

Voted NO on allowing Courts to decide on “God” in Pledge of Allegiance. (Jul 2006)
Voted NO on $84 million in grants for Black and Hispanic colleges. (Mar 2006)
Voted YES on vouchers for private & parochial schools. (Nov 1997)
Abolish the federal Department of Education. (Dec 2000)

Supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer. (May 1997)
Voted NO on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol. (Jun 2000)
Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels. (Aug 2001)
Voted NO on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR. (Aug 2001)

Repeal the gas tax. (May 2001)
Rated 5% by the LCV, indicating anti-environment votes. (Dec 2003)
Rated 76% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record. (Dec 2003)

Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003)
Minimum wage takes away opportunities, especially for blacks. (Sep 2007)
No “sexual orientation” in Employment Non-Discrimination Act. (Sep 2007)

Voted NO on restricting employer interference in union organizing. (Mar 2007)
Voted NO on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Jan 2007)
Voted YES on zero-funding OSHA’s Ergonomics Rules instead of $4.5B. (Mar 2001)

Rated 47% by the AFL-CIO, indicating a mixed record on union issues. (Dec 2003)
Rated 30% by the ARA, indicating an anti-senior voting record. (Dec 2003)
I have never voted for a tax increase; and never will. (Nov 2007)

Voted YES on making the Bush tax cuts permanent. (Apr 2002)
Voted YES on eliminating the Estate Tax (“death tax”). (Apr 2001)
Overhaul income tax; end capital gains & inheritance tax. (Dec 2000)
No Fairness Doctrine: no equal time if morally objectionable. (Sep 2007)

Voted NO on establishing “network neutrality” (non-tiered Internet). (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on disallowing the invasion of Kosovo. (May 1999)
Voted NO on treating religious organizations equally for tax breaks. (Jul 2001)

If you think Al Gore and 99% of the worlds scientists are right about Global warming, Ron Paul is NOT your man. Is is rated 5% by the League of Conservation voters. One of the only things he actually does take strong stands is against the environment. Yay?

Maybe he isn’t a kook but he is a very conservative Republican.
Or at best? Worst? a right wing libertarian.

Bart’s Note: But, for a Republican, he seems kinda sane.

15 Comments

  1. Comment by Pontiac Tom

    Hey Bart!

    Don forgot to mention a few of Ron Paul’s policy positions:

    - he’s anti-choice, wanting to legally define life as beginning at conception;
    - he wants to subsidize home schooling with tax credits
    - he also wants to reduce taxes, complains about rampant spending (funny, he forgot to mention that he and his fellow Republican’ts are responsible for causing the huge debt load in the first place), and wants to reduce the debt.

    I’m kinda wondering how that can be done (funny, he doesn’t go into detail about how he’s going to do that)
    - he thinks that the NAFTA superhighway and the North American Union are real (just like quite a few of the religiously insane)
    - he wants to gut the FDA
    - he wants to introduce Putsch’s Health Savings Account boondoggle
    - he wants the US to withdraw from NATO and the UN
    - he wants ‘state rights’ to trump ‘federal rights’. Don’t want to allow gays, abortion providers, or the teaching of evolution, or (insert your own hot button issue here) in your state? No problem!

    And some non-kooky stuff, too!

    (: Tom :) the Pillar in Pontiac (who also attended Tequilafest 2006)

    Comment by Bart — December 19, 2007 @ 11:19 pm

  2. Maybe I’m wrong but it seems at least half of the stuff cited mirrors the crap that Texans believe in. I figured he was probably quite popular with his constituents and looked for some Texan polling data to back my claim. Guess we’ll never know how popular since he’s not included in Texan polling. Excuse given was nobody knows him outside his district.

    http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/pollster-justifies-ron-paul-exclusion-texas-poll.html

    Comment by DC Madman — December 20, 2007 @ 12:34 am

  3. I’ll bet this never sees the light of a morning talkshow,for one it reeks of fact-a-nazis.

    Comment by Rainlander — December 20, 2007 @ 1:46 am

  4. One of the “Ronettes” wrote in our local paper that Paul planned to dismantle Social Security because it was a “communist conspiracy”. That was the best laugh I had that day.

    Comment by greyhawk — December 20, 2007 @ 5:32 am

  5. Just found out he has a major problem

    Glen Beck has a man crush on him

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/20/glenn-becks-big-love-for-ron-paul/#comments

    Comment by greyhawk — December 20, 2007 @ 2:48 pm

  6. Your Ron Paul pile on won’t work when you understand the logic behind his decisions. I could go one by one but I’ll just do a few until I get bored with this.

    >Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC.

    Uh, how is it that he is able to vote in DC, he lives in Texas. This one sounds made up to me.

    >Voted YES on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions.

    This one sounds like he wants to end discrimination. Sounds good to me.

    >Rated 67% by the ACLU, indicating a mixed civil rights voting record.

    I don’t care what the ACLU thinks, why should I?

    >Don’t ask, don’t tell is a decent policy for gays in army.

    It’s also a good policy for straights, bisexuals and nonsexuals. Maybe we should all stop blabbing about out sexual preferences.

    >Anti corporate power? Nope

    You haven’t said enough here to have refuted.

    >Voted NO on allowing stockholder voting on executive compensation.

    Because he thinks government should stay out of private business affairs.

    >Voted NO on $84 million in grants for Black and Hispanic colleges

    Why should I be taxed for the success of Black and Hispanic colleges, when I can’t afford my own daughters tuition. Again, government should keep their hands off my hard earned money.

    >Voted YES on Bankruptcy Overhaul requiring partial debt repayment.

    Personal responsibility is good.

    >Repeal the gas tax.

    Taxes just allow corrupt government to remain corrupt.

    I could go on, please just google some of his articles on the internet.

    Comment by Flat Armadillo — December 20, 2007 @ 3:09 pm

  7. How is voting against the Kosovo war a problem? Are presidential vanity wars acceptable only when the president has a (D) in front of his name?

    Comment by DGB — December 20, 2007 @ 4:38 pm

  8. Flat Armadillo worte: “Uh, how is it that he is able to vote in DC, he lives in Texas. This one sounds made up to me.”

    The District of Columbia, not having statehood, is run by Congress.

    You also wrote: “Because he thinks government should stay out of private business affairs.”

    But then who protects the stockholders and makes sure they are properly reimbursed for their investments or, for that matter, who enforces the terms of contracts and properrty rights? No government involvement means no judges, no warrants, no subpoenas, no cops, no nothing. Do you really want to make the country into Dodge City before the marshal came and cleaned it up?

    Ron Paul’s stand on most things is consistent with who he says he is: a libertarian Republican, except the abortion issue, gays in the military, and a Constitutional amendment sanctioning school prayer. As a matter of fact, I believe I heard him on C-Span saying he didn’t want ANY laws regarding religion enforced by the federal government, but he might have changed his position. (He is, after all, a politician.)

    Paul sounds sane because he’s running against a bunch of religious fruitloops and flip-floppers. I appreciate many of his ‘get-the-government-off-our-back’ positions, and who doesn’t want lower taxes, but I don’t think I could vote for him — there’s such a thing as too little government, as the flooded folks in New Orleans found out in 2005. I wonder how President Paul would have responded to that crisis?

    Comment by RS Janes — December 20, 2007 @ 6:54 pm

  9. Hi Flat Armadillo
    Welcome to BartBlog

    “>Repeal the gas tax.

    Taxes just allow corrupt government to remain corrupt.”

    You are aware, I hope, that the money taken in through the gas tax is used to pay for the roads you drive on. The same roads your food is delivered on. The same roads the ambulance you’ll require one day comes on.

    “I could go on, please just google some of his articles on the internet.”

    I have, especially when I need a good laugh. Ron Paul is the latest attempt to pass Libertarian off as mainstream. As a Democrat I would love to have him carry the GOP banner. We’d carry all 50 states.

    Comment by greyhawk — December 21, 2007 @ 3:46 am

  10. Good points, Greyhawk.

    Comment by RS Janes — December 21, 2007 @ 8:12 am

  11. Thanks here’s another
    >Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC.

    Uh, how is it that he is able to vote in DC, he lives in Texas. This one sounds made up to me.

    You do understand that DC does not have home rule and every major decision must be okayed by Congress?

    Comment by greyhawk — December 21, 2007 @ 12:02 pm

  12. Yo flat armadillo:

    The US congress serves as the “state” government for the district of Columbia. The congressmen from all over the country get to decide their local matters.

    So yes a nut job from Texas decides whether the people in DC get to allow civil rights for gays.

    Taxes are the fuel for the government. If you have no taxes you have no government. Sound good? Try Somalia, that should be right up the alley for government haters. The governments job is to protect people from their enemies. The people of the US have no enemy worse than unbridled corporate power. Don’t believe that? THen how is China exporting poisoned products into the US at the behest of those corporations?

    Why should you help the under-privileged go to college? Well if you don’t then what we get is more dynastic families like the Bushes running the country into future. If you really can not afford to put your own children through college then you should be able to get those same grants. Those like Ron Paul have been working to kill the government support for the poor to go to college. I had a couple years of help from Uncle Sam and that debt has been paid back in thousands of percent by the taxes paid be my having a better job due to a college education. Anti-tax folks against support for government susidies for blacks and latinoes are either ignorant of how it really works or bigotted about non whites getting help. I do not believe any other argument from them.

    Comment by zenferret — December 21, 2007 @ 4:11 pm

  13. The real problem with the Libertarian mode of thought is that they want the benefits of government without having to pay the cost.

    Yo Ron Paul, there is NO such thing as a free lunch!

    Comment by greyhawk — December 21, 2007 @ 5:45 pm

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    Comment by ROSCORUDE — December 21, 2007 @ 10:29 pm

  15. That’s right, Greyhawk and Zenferret. If FA is having problems sending his kid to college, it’s due to the fact that ‘small gub’mint’ Republicans, starting back during the Reagan years, began cutting money for scholarships and other student aid. Of course, they didn’t cut any of the wastage of the Defense Department contractors — their buddies make money from that open sewer of corruption.

    Just think, no unworkable Star Wars missle defense system, on which they’ve wasted several hundred billion dollars so far of our money, and there would be plenty of money to help kids go to college.

    It’s not having a government that’s the problem, FA, it’s who’s running it. Republicans historically have run it for the elite, and still do.

    Comment by RS Janes — December 22, 2007 @ 7:36 am

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