Electric sedans in 2010 and printable photovoltaics by 2012,the energy companies are on their smash and grab retirement cruise.
They,the energy companies are some of the biggest investors in foreighn research into alternative industries,notably in India.
The Chinese are preparing to manufacture
battery run computer cars to compete against the west.
My take;invest in companies that make lithium Ion batteries.
I never understood why people would go for corn based ethanol. Corn is a bitch to grow and it messes with the soil. Hemp is the way to go, whatever happened to that?
When my grandfather was young he would go deep into the rez and just scatter some seeds. No extra work needed. Of course this was before the Feds decided it was ok to regularly violate our sovereign airspace. You have to be sneakier now.
When GHWB was shot down in WWII his life was saved by his hemp parachute. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
I think you are right about the batteries but I also think they will have to come up with a better battery. Saw a thing on PBS about paint on solar collectors and batteries that would hold more concentrated energy. Of course they are so far in the future that we will all be bankrupt from skyrocketing prices and won’t be able to afford them.
Danger Bear, If these bible thumping, godly fundies ever read the book they would know they are going against their invisable clowd master’s instructions, IE;
Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. (Gen. 1:29-30)
LOL Could be any number of things, how about that non native vine that grows wild in the south covering everything? It isnt good for anything else.
President idjut has screwed up everything he has touched and now people all over the world are starving. How long before starvation sets in here in the USA, land of plenty?
Heyzuse, doesn’t he ever consider the consequences before he acts??? or anyone in his circle of thieving cronies?
Don’t bother answering that, history shows he doesn’t. :={
Kerry,
actually AC Propulsion the company responsible for the Tesla car is working on grid to car to grid technology.
One of the concepts being that the car has photovoltaic panels that charge the car while driving and when at rest in the sun also carports which act as charging stations and solar generators which offsets the energy demand
of the residence and the vehicle charge stste.
I have repeatedly tried to post links to these sites only for them to go ignored awaiting moderation.
As Grim has pointed out in several post’s
Bio-diesel from algae has an 1500-10,000 greater yield per acre than any conventional crop and it wont deplete the soil as it needs
only water CO2 and sunlight to make oil.
Quoting the quotee of WJC “There is nothing wrong with america that cannot be fixed by what is right with america”.
Google these please:
ACPropulsions
TeslaMotors
LightningCars
PESWiki
N.E.D.R.A.
MyersMotors
PCMag/John Dvorchak/Solar
And thanks for the kind comments and good wishes
as always.
Cheers,Rain.
Thanks Rain, will copy and put in my file.
Have seen several documentaries on PBS on both the cars and different experimental solar collecting methods. It seem to boil down to developing a smaller, more powerful battery cheap enough that it is affordable.
The car they showed used banks of 60 thousand small batteries about the size of the AA. Out of the price range of the average citizen and not good for any distance.
You do know that Tesla had plans for making energy available all over the land. Also that the good old gov stepped in and grabbed all his papers when he died. Is the Tesla car anything like what Tesla had planned?
I’m presuming that you have read all about Tesla. ;O)
Kerry,
Yes,Nicholai Tesla was a childhood hero of mine.
He was also a rival of Thomas Edison.
Our national Hero Edison needed to sell his famous invention the lightbulb but knowing jack shit about electricity proposed generating stations every ten miles along powerlines or some such horseshit.
Tesla wiped his eye with demonstrations of a dynamo which produced Alternating current instead of Direct Current thus reducing the demand of transmitting electricity over largish
distances.
Tesla got the go ahead and the backing and built
his powerstation at the american falls near Buffalo Ny.
His plant worked as he had predicted but only for a short time,A huge flood demolished the plant and in swoops Edison to build his very own
power plant.
The grid started by Tesla ended up in the hands of Edison and to this day is part of Con-Ed a fitting name.
The Tesla car as it stands runs off common laptop batteries around 7,000 of them nearly the same configuration as its prototype the Tzero.
An Inverter/controller changes the current from
Direct Current to Alternating current reducing the demands of the motor and allowing for regenerative braking,the 3 phase industrial motor manufactured by Siemens(I think) produces
200 horsepower and a torque curve only dreamed of by automotive engineers.
It provides for an effective cruise range of 200 miles at around .02 cents per mile.
Here is the part the oil companies dont want you to know,it is the fastest production vehicle(including formula one)in existence.
The Tesla is even faster then the Keonigsegg TSC from 0-60 mph in 3.2 seconds.
The price of the first cars which are sold out BTW is around $100,000 dollars US.
In 2010 Tesla is planning on releasing its four door sedan dubbed the whitestar tentatively
for around $40,000,the planned range is going to be somewhere between 300-400 miles.
Negotiations are in progress for the chassis supplier(My hunch,Toyota’s camry)and licenses for hybrids from the most prominent manufacturers.
In 2012 Tesla is planning its $25,000 dollar economy model,so there is hope.
As I mentioned though earlier,the Chinese are
planning their own electric commuter car to compete with our humble Simi Valley marque.
So yes,there are strong parallels between the namesake and its benefactor.
Lets just hope that the same thing does’nt happen again or We’re going to have human scum
like Exxon/Mobil’s Lee Raymond and T Boone Pickens running this country just as they have done since the turn of the last century,
hopefully mankind will mature enough that we wont have the World Wars of the last century and over what?,Oil!
[hopefully mankind will mature enough that we wont have the World Wars of the last century and over what?,Oil!]
Morning Rain, I doubt the oil cartel will allow anything to be developed within the price range of the average American. They have managed to buy up anything that has appeared to be a viable, reasonably priced alternative and squash it so far.
And from the caliber of the audiences I see on the talk shows etc. on TV I get the impression that most would rather know celebrity scandals and get free goodies from Oprah than bother to inform themselves on anything.
Tesla is one of my heroes too. LOL I still remember the anger I felt when I first read of Tesla wanting to give cheap energy to the world and Edison stealing the patent for himself, never giving Tesla any credit or compensation.
I’ve done a lot of reading about low frequency waves too and have a number of books on the subject as well as the effects of color. If you haven’t seen the books on Kymatics/Cymatics by Hans Jenny you should. (Kymatics, The effects of energy waves on matter, matter being energy in solid form.)
( http://www.cymaticsource.com/ ) With your mind I think you would find it most interesting and will change the way you look at the whole world.
As long as there are people who feel it is their right to take for themselves what belongs to others there will continue to be wars. You know that Dubya is dying to nuke somebody before he gets booted out of the White House and he hasn’t accomplished his “Armageddon Mission from god” YET. Every day I check the news to see if Prez stupid has done his preemptive strike on Iran. it’s like waiting for the other shoe to drop.
You know what they say about people who think the whole world is crazy! Sometimes I only wish I were. ;O)
Hi,Kerry.
The cymatics are a fascinating subject,I had no idea that they were ever studied seriously.
Musical talent seems to be in my genome and at first gestalt recognised diminuitive and fundamental harmonics in the fractal geometry.
Indeed music has the power to move.
On the subject of Tesla,I was first introduced
to his creation the Tesla coil by my late uncle.
He was an inquisitive little boy about the time
that electrification and the newest form of media was taking hold,Radio!
Electricity was a life long passion of his and on learning of my interests in all things electromechanical took it upon himself to pass
on his enthusiasm and knowledge gleaned by experimentation and later formally at the University of Oklahoma.
While attending OU he built several Tesla Coils
for the Drama department so that they might have the effect of hair standing on end and
props such as you’ve seen in the early horror films.
I remember detonating my aunts new zenith television,it was the first television with a digital tuner and it just was’nt up to the kind
of energy we were playing all over the room.
Kind of like ghostbusters with 120 kev,the biggest we ever built.
The other thing i remember fondly was being introduced to the big band music of the 30′s and 40′s.
Thanks for the info on the cymatics,I expect there may be a answer somewhere in there to increase the reaping of hydrogen and oxygen
from water and various hydrocarbon based liquids
and gases.
My first ‘experiment’ with electricity was at the age of 5 while my stepmom had gone to the store. I took a metal tipped cane, climbed onto a chair and stuck the metal tip into an open light bulb socket. I have had a great deal of respect for electricity ever since. LOL
At 7 yrs. I was staying with my aunt and saw my first radio. A small wooden thing with 2 dials and a rounded top. My aunt showed me how to turn it on and I suddenly found myself listening to the most exquisite sound I had ever heard, a full symphony orchestra. I sat there spellbound until a short time later when my aunt said it was time for bed and I could listen to the radio the next day. I had only seen a hand cranked record player up to then, that I could replay a record over when I wanted to. Next morning I was so mad at my aunt as I turned the dial no music was to be found! I have had a passion for symphony music ever since. Sadly, what passes for music today has been proven to be detrimental to plants and hearing.
I wish you could see the Cymatics books in person, the photos are awe inspiring. I had to order mine from Switzerland in 1976, $85 and import fees but they are much cheaper now. Meanwhile there is a 3 part video here that will blow your mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0oWaOZ408c
Electric sedans in 2010 and printable photovoltaics by 2012,the energy companies are on their smash and grab retirement cruise.
They,the energy companies are some of the biggest investors in foreighn research into alternative industries,notably in India.
The Chinese are preparing to manufacture
battery run computer cars to compete against the west.
My take;invest in companies that make lithium Ion batteries.
Comment by Rainlander — April 30, 2008 @ 2:26 pm
I meant commuter cars of course,i regret the err.
Comment by Rainlander — April 30, 2008 @ 2:27 pm
I never understood why people would go for corn based ethanol. Corn is a bitch to grow and it messes with the soil. Hemp is the way to go, whatever happened to that?
When my grandfather was young he would go deep into the rez and just scatter some seeds. No extra work needed. Of course this was before the Feds decided it was ok to regularly violate our sovereign airspace. You have to be sneakier now.
When GHWB was shot down in WWII his life was saved by his hemp parachute. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Comment by Danger Bear — April 30, 2008 @ 2:59 pm
LOL Rain, Why not a combination of both.
I think you are right about the batteries but I also think they will have to come up with a better battery. Saw a thing on PBS about paint on solar collectors and batteries that would hold more concentrated energy. Of course they are so far in the future that we will all be bankrupt from skyrocketing prices and won’t be able to afford them.
Comment by kerry — April 30, 2008 @ 3:03 pm
Danger Bear, If these bible thumping, godly fundies ever read the book they would know they are going against their invisable clowd master’s instructions, IE;
Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. (Gen. 1:29-30)
Comment by kerry — April 30, 2008 @ 3:17 pm
Maybe bamboo then if people are still scared of the Devil’s Weed.
Comment by Danger Bear — April 30, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
LOL Could be any number of things, how about that non native vine that grows wild in the south covering everything? It isnt good for anything else.
President idjut has screwed up everything he has touched and now people all over the world are starving. How long before starvation sets in here in the USA, land of plenty?
Heyzuse, doesn’t he ever consider the consequences before he acts??? or anyone in his circle of thieving cronies?
Don’t bother answering that, history shows he doesn’t. :={
Comment by kerry — April 30, 2008 @ 7:12 pm
Kerry,
actually AC Propulsion the company responsible for the Tesla car is working on grid to car to grid technology.
One of the concepts being that the car has photovoltaic panels that charge the car while driving and when at rest in the sun also carports which act as charging stations and solar generators which offsets the energy demand
of the residence and the vehicle charge stste.
I have repeatedly tried to post links to these sites only for them to go ignored awaiting moderation.
As Grim has pointed out in several post’s
Bio-diesel from algae has an 1500-10,000 greater yield per acre than any conventional crop and it wont deplete the soil as it needs
only water CO2 and sunlight to make oil.
Quoting the quotee of WJC “There is nothing wrong with america that cannot be fixed by what is right with america”.
Google these please:
ACPropulsions
TeslaMotors
LightningCars
PESWiki
N.E.D.R.A.
MyersMotors
PCMag/John Dvorchak/Solar
And thanks for the kind comments and good wishes
as always.
Cheers,Rain.
Comment by Rainlander — May 1, 2008 @ 12:24 am
Thanks Rain, will copy and put in my file.
Have seen several documentaries on PBS on both the cars and different experimental solar collecting methods. It seem to boil down to developing a smaller, more powerful battery cheap enough that it is affordable.
The car they showed used banks of 60 thousand small batteries about the size of the AA. Out of the price range of the average citizen and not good for any distance.
You do know that Tesla had plans for making energy available all over the land. Also that the good old gov stepped in and grabbed all his papers when he died. Is the Tesla car anything like what Tesla had planned?
I’m presuming that you have read all about Tesla. ;O)
Kerry
Comment by kerry — May 1, 2008 @ 2:35 am
Kerry,
Yes,Nicholai Tesla was a childhood hero of mine.
He was also a rival of Thomas Edison.
Our national Hero Edison needed to sell his famous invention the lightbulb but knowing jack shit about electricity proposed generating stations every ten miles along powerlines or some such horseshit.
Tesla wiped his eye with demonstrations of a dynamo which produced Alternating current instead of Direct Current thus reducing the demand of transmitting electricity over largish
distances.
Tesla got the go ahead and the backing and built
his powerstation at the american falls near Buffalo Ny.
His plant worked as he had predicted but only for a short time,A huge flood demolished the plant and in swoops Edison to build his very own
power plant.
The grid started by Tesla ended up in the hands of Edison and to this day is part of Con-Ed a fitting name.
The Tesla car as it stands runs off common laptop batteries around 7,000 of them nearly the same configuration as its prototype the Tzero.
An Inverter/controller changes the current from
Direct Current to Alternating current reducing the demands of the motor and allowing for regenerative braking,the 3 phase industrial motor manufactured by Siemens(I think) produces
200 horsepower and a torque curve only dreamed of by automotive engineers.
It provides for an effective cruise range of 200 miles at around .02 cents per mile.
Here is the part the oil companies dont want you to know,it is the fastest production vehicle(including formula one)in existence.
The Tesla is even faster then the Keonigsegg TSC from 0-60 mph in 3.2 seconds.
The price of the first cars which are sold out BTW is around $100,000 dollars US.
In 2010 Tesla is planning on releasing its four door sedan dubbed the whitestar tentatively
for around $40,000,the planned range is going to be somewhere between 300-400 miles.
Negotiations are in progress for the chassis supplier(My hunch,Toyota’s camry)and licenses for hybrids from the most prominent manufacturers.
In 2012 Tesla is planning its $25,000 dollar economy model,so there is hope.
As I mentioned though earlier,the Chinese are
planning their own electric commuter car to compete with our humble Simi Valley marque.
So yes,there are strong parallels between the namesake and its benefactor.
Lets just hope that the same thing does’nt happen again or We’re going to have human scum
like Exxon/Mobil’s Lee Raymond and T Boone Pickens running this country just as they have done since the turn of the last century,
hopefully mankind will mature enough that we wont have the World Wars of the last century and over what?,Oil!
Comment by Rainlander — May 1, 2008 @ 4:28 am
[hopefully mankind will mature enough that we wont have the World Wars of the last century and over what?,Oil!]
Morning Rain, I doubt the oil cartel will allow anything to be developed within the price range of the average American. They have managed to buy up anything that has appeared to be a viable, reasonably priced alternative and squash it so far.
And from the caliber of the audiences I see on the talk shows etc. on TV I get the impression that most would rather know celebrity scandals and get free goodies from Oprah than bother to inform themselves on anything.
Tesla is one of my heroes too. LOL I still remember the anger I felt when I first read of Tesla wanting to give cheap energy to the world and Edison stealing the patent for himself, never giving Tesla any credit or compensation.
I’ve done a lot of reading about low frequency waves too and have a number of books on the subject as well as the effects of color. If you haven’t seen the books on Kymatics/Cymatics by Hans Jenny you should. (Kymatics, The effects of energy waves on matter, matter being energy in solid form.)
( http://www.cymaticsource.com/ ) With your mind I think you would find it most interesting and will change the way you look at the whole world.
As long as there are people who feel it is their right to take for themselves what belongs to others there will continue to be wars. You know that Dubya is dying to nuke somebody before he gets booted out of the White House and he hasn’t accomplished his “Armageddon Mission from god” YET. Every day I check the news to see if Prez stupid has done his preemptive strike on Iran. it’s like waiting for the other shoe to drop.
You know what they say about people who think the whole world is crazy! Sometimes I only wish I were. ;O)
Comment by kerry — May 1, 2008 @ 11:08 am
P.S. Google cymatics, images and you can see some of the fantastic photos of the results.
Comment by kerry — May 1, 2008 @ 11:18 am
Hi,Kerry.
The cymatics are a fascinating subject,I had no idea that they were ever studied seriously.
Musical talent seems to be in my genome and at first gestalt recognised diminuitive and fundamental harmonics in the fractal geometry.
Indeed music has the power to move.
On the subject of Tesla,I was first introduced
to his creation the Tesla coil by my late uncle.
He was an inquisitive little boy about the time
that electrification and the newest form of media was taking hold,Radio!
Electricity was a life long passion of his and on learning of my interests in all things electromechanical took it upon himself to pass
on his enthusiasm and knowledge gleaned by experimentation and later formally at the University of Oklahoma.
While attending OU he built several Tesla Coils
for the Drama department so that they might have the effect of hair standing on end and
props such as you’ve seen in the early horror films.
I remember detonating my aunts new zenith television,it was the first television with a digital tuner and it just was’nt up to the kind
of energy we were playing all over the room.
Kind of like ghostbusters with 120 kev,the biggest we ever built.
The other thing i remember fondly was being introduced to the big band music of the 30′s and 40′s.
Thanks for the info on the cymatics,I expect there may be a answer somewhere in there to increase the reaping of hydrogen and oxygen
from water and various hydrocarbon based liquids
and gases.
Cheers! Rain.
Comment by Rainlander — May 2, 2008 @ 12:52 am
Hi Rain,
I’ll bet your aunt was fit to be tied. LOL
My first ‘experiment’ with electricity was at the age of 5 while my stepmom had gone to the store. I took a metal tipped cane, climbed onto a chair and stuck the metal tip into an open light bulb socket. I have had a great deal of respect for electricity ever since. LOL
At 7 yrs. I was staying with my aunt and saw my first radio. A small wooden thing with 2 dials and a rounded top. My aunt showed me how to turn it on and I suddenly found myself listening to the most exquisite sound I had ever heard, a full symphony orchestra. I sat there spellbound until a short time later when my aunt said it was time for bed and I could listen to the radio the next day. I had only seen a hand cranked record player up to then, that I could replay a record over when I wanted to. Next morning I was so mad at my aunt as I turned the dial no music was to be found! I have had a passion for symphony music ever since. Sadly, what passes for music today has been proven to be detrimental to plants and hearing.
I wish you could see the Cymatics books in person, the photos are awe inspiring. I had to order mine from Switzerland in 1976, $85 and import fees but they are much cheaper now. Meanwhile there is a 3 part video here that will blow your mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0oWaOZ408c
Other Cymatics videos, see and hear the sound in action http://www.youtube.com/watchv=etZJyOeXiXI&feature=related
I would love to hear your feelings and thoughts after you watch how sound/vibrations of different frequencies animate matter.
I think you will find these sites most interesting too. There is much information there and I leave it up to you to sift through the chaff for the grains of truth.
http://www.unitedearth.com.au/watercrystals.html
http://www.unitedearth.com.au/sound.html
http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/070226_about_light.html
Enjoy,
Kerry
Comment by kerry — May 2, 2008 @ 1:53 pm