A non-fan of HRC wanted to have the last word so I told him I’d create this for him.
All you “Mena Airport” crazies can attack her here 
After two losers, I’m ready to run a winner – how about you?
December 17, 2006
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Letter to Bart:
Bart, why would a Democrat not vote for Hillary if it meant 4 more years of another crazy right wing Republican bastard as president who would continue the fascist policies of Herr Bush?
To be of the Democratic Party in these times, and not vote for the Democratic front rummer if it’s HER? That’s crazy talk!
CY in PA
CY, some people do crazy and illogical things “for principle.”
Comment by Bart — December 17, 2006 @ 6:59 pm
Bart wrote:
I see, but what if you asked 11,000 Republicans and Reagan only got 1.5 percent of the vote.
Would you think the poll was rigged?
You’re right about that – I would expect far more Republicans not to know that Reagan is dead.
As for who I support for president – I’ll support the Democrat when they win the nomination”, but until then, I’m not interested in being told who I’m supposed to support.
Comment by Avedon — December 17, 2006 @ 8:17 pm
All I want is a Prez to the left of Dick Nixon. Why should I have to settle for Hillary?
Before the campaign starts, she’s giving us the finger.
During the campaign, she’ll give us the finger.
If she takes office, she’ll give us the finger.
How long are you going to not only support her, but proclaim her above criticism?
Comment by happymisanthropy — December 17, 2006 @ 10:05 pm
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Comment by happymisanthropy — December 17, 2006 @ 10:09 pm
Grey Bob wrote today:
“I disagree.
Hillary Clinton doesn’t hate America…strike one.
She doesn’t hate Israel…strike two.
She would rather win by appealing to normal people than lose
while marching in lockstep with ideological nut muffins…stee-rike three.
She’s outta there! Disqualified! Insufficiently pure! ”
I wonder how he figures that since 75 – 80% of the country disagree with Bush’s policies in Iraq and since the Democrats swept all open seats in the last election. Seems to me he and She are the ones kind of out of step.
Comment by Ekim — December 18, 2006 @ 12:45 pm
She is still my favorite. I primarily vote Anti-republican, which means I’ll vote for the Dem nominee, but she is my favorite. I’d prefer a ticket with any combo of Her, Obama, Clark and Edwards.
Comment by carol — December 18, 2006 @ 3:17 pm
This is interesting. Newsweek has a poll showing that Clinton would beat McCain but that Obama wouldn’t and in their article about the two, they didn’t even mention it. Wonder why? (From Atrios: “I bet this poll won’t get any coverage. In fact, I couldn’t even find coverage of it in Newsweek itself, aside from the linked press release.
Clinton’s up 50-43 over McCain, 48-47 over Three Wives Giuliani, 58-32 over Mitt Romney.
McCain beats Obama 45-43, Giuliani beats Obama 47-44, Obama beats Romney 55-25.
Early polls like this don’t really mean much but they do drive news coverage. Unless they’re just ignored of course.
…Bowers has more on how Newsweek is ignoring its own poll.”) MyDD has much more in detail.
Comment by Ekim — December 18, 2006 @ 5:04 pm
Avedon, if anyone’s telling you to support how to vote, it’s the mainstream media and the websites running the crooked polls that say the front runner has no chance.
They’re trying to limit your options.
Not me.
All I’ve asked is that you vote Demo in Nov 08.
Comment by Bart — December 19, 2006 @ 11:32 am
To “happy”
All I want is a Prez to the left of Dick Nixon. Why should I have to settle for Hillary?
…to avoid 4 more years of BFEE?
Before the campaign starts, she’s giving us the finger.
During the campaign, she’ll give us the finger.
If she takes office, she’ll give us the finger.
…perhaps an optomitrist could help?
How long are you going to not only support her, but proclaim her above criticism?
…I’ll bet you can’t quote me where I said that.
I’m just asking for the lies to stop.
Is that out of line?
…Question:
Will you vote Dem in 08?
Comment by Bart — December 19, 2006 @ 11:36 am
Grey Bob, I can only assume you see Hillary and Bush as twins.
That is a mistake.
The GOP will spend up to $500M to try to
prevent “Bush’s twin” from winning.
Comment by Bart — December 19, 2006 @ 11:38 am
As a life-long Democrat it’s difficult for me to diss Hillary, but as far as I’m concerned she’s a ruthless, power-hungry opportunist who can’t bring herself to risk losing her pro-Israel support by admitting her backing of Bush’s war was the one mistake she will never live down, especially in 2008. I see today in the news, she still won’t back down. And the say Bush can’t face reality!
Comment by Figaro — December 19, 2006 @ 3:18 pm
Bart,
“[settle for Hillary?]…to avoid 4 more years of BFEE?”
But I disagree that Hillary would be ‘more electable’ than someone who actually opposes the BFEE. You can’t outrun the elephant when you’re carrying the elephant.
“…perhaps an optomitrist could help?”
Why don’t you show us what Hil is doing that you’re so enthusiastic about? Then maybe you’ll convince some critics.
“I’m just asking for the lies to stop.
Is that out of line?”
No. Fair enough. But I want Hillary and Edwards and the Pink Tutu clan held to the same standards. Is that out of line?
(While on the topic of stopping lies, you might want to fact-check some of the allegations against Kos.)
“…Question:
Will you vote Dem in 08?”
I plan to, under any scenario. I don’t make promises.
Comment by happymisanthropy — December 19, 2006 @ 4:30 pm
I’m not sure Edwards qualifies anymore as a Pink Tutu Dem. For one thing, I think he was the first of the ones who voted for the Iraq resolution to stand up and say he was wrong to do so.
Hillary has finally said so, too, but only after lots of other people did first.
Which means Edwards is showing more leadership than Hillary is.
I think Hillary might be able to win, so it’s not a matter of “electability”.
But I don’t like political dynasties (Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton – I hate the thought), and I’m not sure I’ve forgiven Hillary for screwing up the healthcare thing and not even having the guts to mention single-payer when everyone wanted universal healthcare.
I think she’s too much of a fraidy-cat and I want someone with real guts. I keep waiting for her to show ‘em.
Comment by Avedon — December 19, 2006 @ 8:16 pm
Which ever way the wind blows is not someone i look for in a leader, I’ll keep harping on this till she loses the nomination because she can’t win. No republican will ever vote for her and the left is split on her. It’s just simple math. They don’t even have to cheat to win this one if she is the front runner.
Comment by Fud — December 20, 2006 @ 12:40 pm
Happy wrote:
(While on the topic of stopping lies, you might want to fact-check some of the allegations against Kos.)
The “allegations against Kos” are facts.
The fact is when the lying whore media wants to convince people that Hillary has no chance, they quote (or misquote) Kos and explain that he’s the biggest Dem website there is.
Is Kos powerless to remove the poll that the whore media uses to prove their lie that Hillary is hovering around one percent?
Comment by Bart — December 27, 2006 @ 6:54 pm
Fud wrote:
(Which ever way the wind blows is not someone i look for in a leader, I’ll keep harping on this till she loses the nomination because she can’t win. It’s just simple math.)
Dec 26, Bill told Ellen that Hillary got 60 percent of the vote in New York’s two most Republican districts. I predict you will do a 180 and say, “That’s because she’s Bush’s twin.”
You can’t have it both ways, my friend.
Like you said, it’s simple math.
Comment by Bart — December 27, 2006 @ 6:57 pm
Hey Bart,
I’m dancing off the side of this issue, because I’d like to see you help add voices to the ‘presidential candidates’ ring’…
damn! it wasn’t but a few months ago that wrote one of the great speeches of our day (Rocky Anderson, if my attempt to link failed)
“Blind faith in bad leaders is not patriotism.”
and a guy like that should be talked up among all the hot Dem websites and blogs (more popular than mine…)
I was stricken when Howard Dean went off the national stage, simply because the replayed coverage had used a shotgun mike (which excludes side noise, or here crowd noise)!
One cheap trick, Swiftboat or shotgun mike can off another hot candidate: we need to get the prominent and articulate potential candidates onto the ‘democratic street’ (as Tom Friedman might say).
Drew
Comment by Drew — January 12, 2007 @ 10:28 am
I cannot figure out how your link system works, bart.
The linked text above should show “Rocky Anderson” and not the rest of my text… sorry!
drew
Comment by Drew — January 12, 2007 @ 10:30 am